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Old Mon Nov 14, 2022, 09:29am
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When you see 6 on the court.

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Ok. Did they do the right thing by taking 2 points off the board and erasing a foul?
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Ok. Did they do the right thing by taking 2 points off the board and erasing a foul?
Did they go to review?

For HS, I would say you can't undo what has been done. "Coach, you have too many on the floor". Resume game with A shooting 1. And, with only 10 players!

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Ok. Did they do the right thing by taking 2 points off the board and erasing a foul?
You never mentioned what they did or did not do. You asked when the T gets enforced. You never said anything about what they did with points or other aspects of the play.

I guess it would depend on when they discovered the 6 players on the court. If they saw it and then killed the play and then a shot went up, yeah I could see not counting the point. If it was not discovered until after a few points were scored, no you cannot take off the points. This is not a correctable error situation at all.

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Old Mon Nov 14, 2022, 10:59am
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Coming out of a time-out, team A breaks team Bs full court press. Team A scores and gets the foul. Opportunity for a three point play. Ball is dead. It is discovered at this point that team A had/has 6 players on the floor. How should this be handled?
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... you cannot take off the points. This is not a correctable error situation at all.
2-10-1: Correctable Errors: Officials may correct an error if a rule is inadvertently set aside and results in:
a. Failure to award a merited free throw.
b. Awarding an unmerited free throw.
c. Permitting a wrong player to attempt a free throw.
d. Attempting a free throw at the wrong basket.
e. Erroneously counting or canceling a score.


Agree with JRutledge, but with some reservation.

Can we use NFHS 2-3: Referee’s Authority?

NFHS 2-3: Referee’s Authority: The referee must make decisions on any points not specifically covered in the rules.

Not really because this situation is "somewhat" covered in the rules (six on court is a technical foul; not listed as a correctable error, in fact, not only is it not listed as correctable, is it an actual error by the official inadvertently setting aside a rule).

But is the situation (extra player illegal advantage) "specifically" covered?

This sticks in my craw: Purpose and intent: A team should not be permitted an advantage which is not intended by a rule.
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You never mentioned what they did or did not do. You asked when the T gets enforced. You never said anything about what they did with points or other aspects of the play.

I guess it would depend on when they discovered the 6 players on the court. If they saw it and then killed the play and then a shot went up, yeah I could see not counting the point. If it was not discovered until after a few points were scored, no you cannot take off the points. This is not a correctable error situation at all.

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I asked how it should have been handled. I framed it broadly on purpose to generate some discussion.

I thought I explained it clearly that the 6 players were not discovered until after the foul call.

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