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Old Thu Aug 18, 2022, 09:05pm
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A novel 3 point "try for goal" preliminary mechanic?

Recently worked in what the sponsors called an "Exposure tournament" for rising HS seniors to display their skills to "interested parties"; the refs were from different regions. When marking a 3 point try for goal, I observed one of my partners to consistently do the following: use the normal raised one arm at approximately 90 degree angle with fingers of three; however, the other arm was placed diagonally across her chest with the palm coming to rest in a "pledge of allegiance" fashion!

The consistency with which she displayed this rather elegant pose when marking the 3 point try indicated to me that this was a common practice from wherever she was from; or a preferred practice of her's, or maybe it has a functional role.

Anyone else seen this mechanic, and, is it kosher?

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Old Fri Aug 19, 2022, 08:11am
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Bit odd though, probably not something that would get critiqued on outside of camps perhaps. Worst thing ive seen for 3 pt made basket is a crew doing "raise the roof"
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Old Fri Aug 19, 2022, 09:58am
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Was it a mechanic or just a personal quirk? Sounds like a personal quirk. Otherwise, it means nothing.

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Old Fri Aug 19, 2022, 12:31pm
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A lot of referees bring their non-signaling arm ("activator arm") across their chest when making a signal with the other arm.
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Old Sat Aug 20, 2022, 12:03am
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Recently worked in what the sponsors called an "Exposure tournament" for rising HS seniors to display their skills to "interested parties"; the refs were from different regions. When marking a 3 point try for goal, I observed one of my partners to consistently do the following: use the normal raised one arm at approximately 90 degree angle with fingers of three; however, the other arm was placed diagonally across her chest with the palm coming to rest in a "pledge of allegiance" fashion!

The consistency with which she displayed this rather elegant pose when marking the 3 point try indicated to me that this was a common practice from wherever she was from; or a preferred practice of her's, or maybe it has a functional role.

Anyone else seen this mechanic, and, is it kosher?

Thanks.
The standard mechanic for a 3-pointer is raising an arm with 3 fingers at a 45° angle (NCAA men's mechanics say to raise the arm at 2 o'clock (right) or 10 o'clock (left)). 90°, i.e. straight up, is the NCAA women's and NBA mechanic.
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Old Sat Aug 20, 2022, 08:43am
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The standard mechanic for a 3-pointer is raising an arm with 3 fingers at a 45° angle (NCAA men's mechanics say to raise the arm at 2 o'clock (right) or 10 o'clock (left)). 90°, i.e. straight up, is the NCAA women's and NBA mechanic.
NFHS signal seems higher than 45°:



IAABO signal is closer to 45°, described as "top of head level":

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Old Sat Aug 20, 2022, 08:54am
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And if I mention this to someone I have nothing else better to mention to them and try to nitpick something about them (which might be justified). The main thing I have heard is do you give the "OK signal" verse a straight open palm.

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Old Sun Aug 21, 2022, 12:08pm
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And if I mention this to someone I have nothing else better to mention to them and try to nitpick something about them (which might be justified). The main thing I have heard is do you give the "OK signal" verse a straight open palm.

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Old Mon Aug 22, 2022, 12:29am
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A lot of referees bring their non-signaling arm ("activator arm") across their chest when making a signal with the other arm.
Really? It was my first time ever seeing the such! so not sure what you mean by "lots of refs'?
But hay thanks for also a new term " activator arm" , quite descriptive.
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Old Mon Aug 22, 2022, 12:35am
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And if I mention this to someone I have nothing else better to mention to them and try to nitpick something about them (which might be justified). The main thing I have heard is do you give the "OK signal" verse a straight open palm.

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No intention to "not pick" anything that my ref peers do, I just asking about that "pledge of allegiance" pose with her non-signaling arm/hand when marking the 3? ,That mechanic was novel to me;however, far be it for me to give any unsolicited critique of my ref peer.
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Old Mon Aug 22, 2022, 12:47am
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Bit odd though, probably not something that would get critiqued on outside of camps perhaps. Worst thing ive seen for 3 pt made basket is a crew doing "raise the roof"

Really? You mean that after the made 3 the refs actually , and in unison, displayed that sign/meta-dance? WTHay?! Too funny.

That ranks up there with the " double whistle'' on an add-ones type of plays when refs pops a first whistle for the contact on shooter, then pops a second whistle when the ball goes in! Lol.

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Old Mon Aug 22, 2022, 05:46am
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Really? You mean that after the made 3 the refs actually , and in unison, displayed that sign/meta-dance? WTHay?! Too funny.

That ranks up there with the " double whistle'' on an add-ones type of plays when refs pops a first whistle for the contact on shooter, then pops a second whistle when the ball goes in! Lol.


To be fair they didn't do the pumping of the arms... just had their palms facing the cieling.
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Old Mon Aug 22, 2022, 06:13pm
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To be fair they... just had their palms facing the cieling.
That's about as unusual as some of my peers who go palms (and arms) forward, making it look like they're surrendering [insert WW2 France joke].
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Old Mon Aug 22, 2022, 06:38pm
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That's about as unusual as some of my peers who go palms (and arms) forward, making it look like they're surrendering [insert WW2 France joke].
*Do you mean that is how they've marked the 3 ? By displaying such hand&arm motions? Wow, that's even more non-traditional!

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Old Mon Aug 22, 2022, 07:10pm
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No intention to "not pick" anything that my ref peers do, I just asking about that "pledge of allegiance" pose with her non-signaling arm/hand when marking the 3? ,That mechanic was novel to me;however, far be it for me to give any unsolicited critique of my ref peer.
All I was saying was it was likely a personal thing that official does. If you watch enough film on yourself, we all do something that might look wonky if we evaluated it that deep. I know I have and why I changed some things on purpose.

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