A novel 3 point "try for goal" preliminary mechanic?

[ilyazhito]

Originally Posted by Kansas Ref

Recently worked in what the sponsors called an "Exposure tournament" for rising HS seniors to display their skills to "interested parties"; the refs were from different regions. When marking a 3 point try for goal, I observed one of my partners to consistently do the following: use the normal raised one arm at approximately 90 degree angle with fingers of three; however, the other arm was placed diagonally across her chest with the palm coming to rest in a "pledge of allegiance" fashion!

The consistency with which she displayed this rather elegant pose when marking the 3 point try indicated to me that this was a common practice from wherever she was from; or a preferred practice of her's, or maybe it has a functional role.

Anyone else seen this mechanic, and, is it kosher?

Thanks.

The standard mechanic for a 3-pointer is raising an arm with 3 fingers at a 45° angle (NCAA men's mechanics say to raise the arm at 2 o'clock (right) or 10 o'clock (left)). 90°, i.e. straight up, is the NCAA women's and NBA mechanic.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by ilyazhito

The standard mechanic for a 3-pointer is raising an arm with 3 fingers at a 45° angle (NCAA men's mechanics say to raise the arm at 2 o'clock (right) or 10 o'clock (left)). 90°, i.e. straight up, is the NCAA women's and NBA mechanic.

NFHS signal seems higher than 45°:



IAABO signal is closer to 45°, described as "top of head level":

[JRutledge]

And if I mention this to someone I have nothing else better to mention to them and try to nitpick something about them (which might be justified). The main thing I have heard is do you give the "OK signal" verse a straight open palm.

Peace

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

And if I mention this to someone I have nothing else better to mention to them and try to nitpick something about them (which might be justified). The main thing I have heard is do you give the "OK signal" verse a straight open palm.

Peace

I agree with you 100% chance.

MTD, Sr.

[Kansas Ref]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

And if I mention this to someone I have nothing else better to mention to them and try to nitpick something about them (which might be justified). The main thing I have heard is do you give the "OK signal" verse a straight open palm.

Peace

No intention to "not pick" anything that my ref peers do, I just asking about that "pledge of allegiance" pose with her non-signaling arm/hand when marking the 3? ,That mechanic was novel to me;however, far be it for me to give any unsolicited critique of my ref peer.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Kansas Ref

No intention to "not pick" anything that my ref peers do, I just asking about that "pledge of allegiance" pose with her non-signaling arm/hand when marking the 3? ,That mechanic was novel to me;however, far be it for me to give any unsolicited critique of my ref peer.

All I was saying was it was likely a personal thing that official does. If you watch enough film on yourself, we all do something that might look wonky if we evaluated it that deep. I know I have and why I changed some things on purpose.

Peace

[Multiple Sports]

I first witnessed this about 12 years ago from Scott Foster.
At the time he was the only one doing it. It spread like wildfire in some small college leagues and the under 30 generation who had NBA aspirations.

Fast foward five years later, I was at a camp where a current D1 supervisor asked an official to show him his 3pt mechanic. Said official did his "Pledge Allegiance" mechanic. After doing it five times the official realized what the supervisor was getting at. This "mechanic" has lost its steam around here. The latest "fad" seems to have the elbow at a 90 degree angle....to each his own.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Multiple Sports

I first witnessed this about 12 years ago from Scott Foster.
At the time he was the only one doing it. It spread like wildfire in some small college leagues and the under 30 generation who had NBA aspirations.

Fast foward five years later, I was at a camp where a current D1 supervisor asked an official to show him his 3pt mechanic. Said official did his "Pledge Allegiance" mechanic. After doing it five times the official realized what the supervisor was getting at. This "mechanic" has lost its steam around here. The latest "fad" seems to have the elbow at a 90 degree angle....to each his own.

Interesting. Been to many D1 camps over the years and never had anyone address this in any way good or bad. Or never heard anyone give a name to any such pose.

Just shows how regional stuff can be in officiating.

Peace

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Multiple Sports

I first witnessed this about 12 years ago from Scott Foster.
At the time he was the only one doing it. It spread like wildfire in some small college leagues and the under 30 generation who had NBA aspirations.

Fast foward five years later, I was at a camp where a current D1 supervisor asked an official to show him his 3pt mechanic. Said official did his "Pledge Allegiance" mechanic. After doing it five times the official realized what the supervisor was getting at...

It got so bad in this region (would also be done on foul calls), that even Joe Forte got tired of his officials doing it, and he is someone who loves NBA-type presentation on the court.

[Kansas Ref]

Originally Posted by Multiple Sports

I first witnessed this about 12 years ago from Scott Foster.
At the time he was the only one doing it. It spread like wildfire in some small college leagues and the under 30 generation who had NBA aspirations.

Fast foward five years later, I was at a camp where a current D1 supervisor asked an official to show him his 3pt mechanic. Said official did his "Pledge Allegiance" mechanic. After doing it five times the official realized what the supervisor was getting at. This "mechanic" has lost its steam around here. The latest "fad" seems to have the elbow at a 90 degree angle....to each his own.

*This is awesome History for us. Thanks for sharing. Also, it sheds light on how a previous ly bonafide mechanic can devolve into a "fad". Yet a different/new mechanic can evolve as a result of the other falling out of favor in referee subculture.

[Kansas Ref]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

All I was saying was it was likely a personal thing that official does. If you watch enough film on yourself, we all do something that might look wonky if we evaluated it that deep. I know I have and why I changed some things on purpose.

Peace

*Ok, so self-observations led to mindset changes which ultimately led to certain behavioral changes that were either added to or discarded from your game; however, I will not be adding that particular marking to my game, although I shall remain a curious observer of it.