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Old Thu Mar 17, 2022, 09:09pm
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Precision Time in NCAAs

Does anyone know why they are no longer using Precision Time in the NCAA tournament? It would certainly save some of the incessant trips to the monitor at the end of each game!
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Old Thu Mar 17, 2022, 10:28pm
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There have actually been many years precision timing wasn't used.

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Old Fri Mar 18, 2022, 06:28am
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Does anyone know why they are no longer using Precision Time in the NCAA tournament? It would certainly save some of the incessant trips to the monitor at the end of each game!
Other than perhaps the "bubble yea," I don't think it's been used for many years (maybe never). The questions comes up every year.

Has to do with licensing, the fact that some arenas might not have the equipment installed, etc.

Could they change it? -- sure. Why they don't is way above my paygrade.
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Old Fri Mar 18, 2022, 09:10am
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Facts

It was used from 2015-2019. JD Collins wanted it...

https://www.goshennews.com/sports/na...60d3a57e5.html
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Old Fri Mar 18, 2022, 09:13am
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It was used from 2015-2019. JD Collins wanted it...

https://www.goshennews.com/sports/na...60d3a57e5.html
Can't read the article but thanks for the update / correction.
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Old Wed Mar 30, 2022, 11:34pm
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Regarding "shot clocks" I was curious why 35 seconds instead of 30 or 40 seconds? And on the various resets like out of bounds kick by defense or offensive rebounds why does it reset to a specific seconds like 14 or 20 instead of 15 or 25 seconds? And why the symbol mechanic for "patting on top of your head" to signal its expiry?
Are these just arbitrary values or were they derived from objective surveys?
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Old Thu Mar 31, 2022, 10:03am
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NFHS chose 35 for 2 reasons, because they wanted to be different from college basketball, and because college rule changes take time to trickle down to NFHS. They went with the old college values.

Patting the head was an informal end-of-period signal, so when the shot clock came in existence, the rules makers chose to give it formal status as the shot clock singal. Note: in FIBA, officials tap the shoulder instead to signal a shot clock violation.

The secondary value was derived, at least for the 24 and 30 second shot clocks, with a subtraction from the full value to account for the 10-second count. Back when it was a 35/15 shot clock, 15 was somewhat arbitrary. However, later it became more systematic. I suspect NFHS will use 25 as the secondary reset once the 10-second count gets pegged to the shot clock.
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