Why Rules Are Changed ...

[Zoochy]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dvz_eMDYuwc

[ilyazhito]

The home jerseys are legal by current standards, but the away jerseys are not, because there is no clear visible contrast between the borders and the jersey body color. If the coach attempted to have the team play with the away jerseys, and there were no other dark jerseys that could work, he's getting T'd for illegal uniforms.

[bob jenkins]

The state tournament should not be the first time this issue is being raised. And, maybe the team has a waiver from the state.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

The state tournament should not be the first time this issue is being raised. And, maybe the team has a waiver from the state.

Both teams were from outside our local area. My two friends didn't even broach the subject with the coaches (so no information to offer about a possible waiver), figuring that, over ten-plus road games, some out of area officials must have, at least, questioned the jersey and number color combination. They did however (pregame on the court) discuss that this color combination would be illegal in a few years.

Road team lost at the buzzer, so they won't be causing any more headaches this year. Next year? Who knows?

[BillyMac]

Let's make this a realistic, real game, situation; not a rulebook, written exam situation.

One notices these black on black blue border road jerseys in the layup lines. It's a varsity 2021-22 mid-season regular season game in your local area. We'll assume that offending team doesn't have replacement jerseys, and we'll also assume that one knows and agrees with bob jenkin's interpretation. You have not received any prior knowledge of this situation. It was a total surprise. You're the referee. Your partner doesn't know if the ball is inflated or stuffed.

Do you?

1) Charge the offending head coach with a direct technical foul for illegal uniforms, two free throws to the offended team's best free throw shooter, seat belt to the offending head coach, start game with offending team throwin.

2) Discuss with the offending team head coach (and only this coach) the possibility that these my be illegal uniforms, do not charge a technical foul, tell the coach that you will contact your assigner, and that his athletic director should contact the state association, start the game as usual.

3) Discuss with both head coaches the possibility that these my be illegal uniforms and leave it up the offended head coach as how the game should progress. Tell the offending coach (no matter what) that you will contact your assigner, and that his athletic director should contact the state association.

4) Totally ignore the situation as if it never happened.

5) Ignore because one disagrees with bob jenkin's interpretation, worry about it in 2024-25.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

One notices these black on black blue border road jerseys in the layup lines. It's a varsity 2021-22 mid-season regular season game in your local area. We'll assume that offending team doesn't have replacement jerseys, and we'll also assume that one knows and agrees with bob jenkin's interpretation. You have not received any prior knowledge of this situation. It was a total surprise. You're the referee. Your partner doesn't know if the ball is inflated or stuffed.
Do you?
1) Charge the offending head coach with a direct technical foul for illegal uniforms, two free throws to the offended team's best free throw shooter, seat belt to the offending head coach, start game with offending team throwin.
2) Discuss with the offending team head coach (and only this coach) the possibility that these my be illegal uniforms, do not charge a technical foul, tell the coach the you will contact your assigner, and that his athletic director should contact the state association, start the game as usual.
3) Discuss with both head coaches the possibility that these my be illegal uniforms and leave it up the offended head coach as how the game should progress. Tell the offending coach the you will contact your assigner, and that his athletic director should contact the state association.
4) Totally ignore the situation as if it never happened.
5) Ignore because one disagrees with bob jenkin's interpretation, worry about it in 2024-25.

These are not rhetorical questions.

I'm likely going with door number two.

Anybody else care to share?

I think we already know lyazhito's answer.

[ilyazhito]

I would ask the offended team if they have dark jerseys. If they have legal dark jerseys, we play and report the game to the assigner. If not, then I will go with option 1. At least I won't get in trouble with the chain of command for following the rules. If I have to write things up, I will say that I have pursued and exhausted all options to allow the teams to play legally before I had to resort to the rulebook solution for illegal uniforms. I cannot allow the game to be played without sanction if I am unable to identify the players on the court.

[bwburke94]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Let's make this a realistic, real game, situation; not a rulebook, written exam situation.

One notices these black on black blue border road jerseys in the layup lines. It's a varsity 2021-22 mid-season regular season game in your local area. We'll assume that offending team doesn't have replacement jerseys, and we'll also assume that one knows and agrees with bob jenkin's interpretation. You have not received any prior knowledge of this situation. It was a total surprise. You're the referee. Your partner doesn't know if the ball is inflated or stuffed.

Do you?

1) Charge the offending head coach with a direct technical foul for illegal uniforms, two free throws to the offended team's best free throw shooter, seat belt to the offending head coach, start game with offending team throwin.

2) Discuss with the offending team head coach (and only this coach) the possibility that these my be illegal uniforms, do not charge a technical foul, tell the coach that you will contact your assigner, and that his athletic director should contact the state association, start the game as usual.

3) Discuss with both head coaches the possibility that these my be illegal uniforms and leave it up the offended head coach as how the game should progress. Tell the offending coach (no matter what) that you will contact your assigner, and that his athletic director should contact the state association.

4) Totally ignore the situation as if it never happened.

5) Ignore because one disagrees with bob jenkin's interpretation, worry about it in 2024-25.

Ah, you're in test-writer mode. I caught your little trick on 1).

With that being said, unless I'm 100% sure it's a technical foul, I'm not charging a technical foul.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by bwburke94

... unless I'm 100% sure it's a technical foul, I'm not charging a technical foul.

Ignoring, or sending it up the chain of command?