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Old Thu Dec 16, 2021, 01:29pm
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Connecticut interscholastic sports already require proof of a recent physical exam in order to participate.
At the middle school that I taught at, such a mandatory physical exam discovered a previously undetected major heart problem in one of my students who was trying out for cheerleading. Parents told me that it saved her life.
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Old Thu Dec 16, 2021, 02:08pm
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NIH is not a credible institution. Name a state or country that has reduced covid by instituting a mask mandate. I read your rediculous study and it's not surprising in its rediculousness if you read it critically. Especially going back and looking at charts of cases that exploded again after that initial reduction claimed by the study

I can show enough charts from the WHO to fill a stadium that shows that there is no corresponding reduction of cases from from the institution. Especially when conparing their results to neighboring states that did not institute mask mandates

Best thing to do for covid is do the normal things to boost your ommuse system, find a doctor that actually treats for covid(not one that tells you to wait till you have to go to the ER and go on a ventilator).

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Old Thu Dec 16, 2021, 02:22pm
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I can show enough charts from the WHO to fill a stadium ...
Big WHO fan, OK, let's hear from WHO:

On June 5, 2020, the WHO released new interim guidance concerning the use of masks amid the COVID-19 pandemic ... For the general public, the use of cloth masks in public settings, such as grocery stores and places of worship, especially in regions with known or suspected widespread transmission, or in situations where physical distancing is not possible, has been encouraged by the WHO and many policy makers.
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Old Thu Dec 16, 2021, 02:24pm
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Best thing to do for covid is do the normal things to boost your immune system ...
... like getting vaccinated.
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Old Thu Dec 16, 2021, 02:33pm
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... like getting vaccinated.
...like getting the virus.
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Old Thu Dec 16, 2021, 02:51pm
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...like getting the virus.
Agree, but studies show that natural immunity (having COVID) isn't as strong, not as long lasting, and may not be as effective against all variants, as acquired immunity (vaccinations).

Also, the natural immunity of having COVID depends on how severe one's COVID symptoms are. Severe symptoms usually lead to better natural immunity, asymptomatic usually leads to little natural immunity.

Vaccines are consistently strong across the board.

My grandson had COVID (slight symptoms, no hospitalization) before he was eligible for a vaccine. He has since been fully vaccinated (for his age group). His pediatrician says that his antibody levels are now off the chart.

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Old Thu Dec 16, 2021, 02:54pm
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where are the moderators?
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Old Thu Dec 16, 2021, 03:01pm
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where are the moderators?
Thank you. I get enough of that crap elsewhere, can't we just talk about officiating?

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Old Thu Dec 16, 2021, 02:56pm
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OK, let’s try to get back on track here. It just seems ridiculous to me that a state association can require vaccinations for officials, as independent contractors, but not for players and other participants. Officials with exemptions seem to not be recognized by requiring vaccinations with no mention of any exemptions.

Could it possibly be that the higher ups are limiting the playoff pool?

Just trying to understand how this can be enforced.
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Old Thu Dec 16, 2021, 03:05pm
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OK, let’s try to get back on track here. It just seems ridiculous to me that a state association can require vaccinations for officials, as independent contractors, but not for players and other participants.
Our state association (CIAC) based it's protocols (see post #4) in full coordination with the State of Connecticut Public Health Department. Officials, players, coaches, and fans are under the same protocols. Same thing last year, across the board, but with slightly different protocols than this year. My local interpreter actually had a seat at the table when the CIAC (we have a CIAC Officials Association) came up with the protocols, both years. We were kept in the loop all along the way.
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Old Thu Dec 16, 2021, 03:38pm
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Working Hard Or Hardly Working ...

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... an official shortage.
Last year (before vaccination) 40% of our local guys chose not to be assigned games due to COVID.

This year (with vaccinations) 20% of our local guys chose not to be assigned games due to COVID.

We also had a ton of guys retire over that time period, with many saying that while they were thinking about retiring, COVID was the tipping point that pushed their decisions.

Over the past few years our local membership has gone from 320 members (active and inactive) to 270 members (active and inactive), baby boomers now getting too old to run up and down the court, pulling up roots and heading south for warmer temperatures, cheaper taxes, early bird dinner specials, and pickle ball courts.

Trainee classes have been in single digits over two consecutive years.

Still covering the same 70 high schools and many middle schools.

Every year officials get a year older and the schools stay the same age. Wait ... I'm being told ... Players? ... Really? Never mind.

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Old Thu Dec 16, 2021, 02:28pm
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American Journal Of Preventive Medicine ...

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Name a state or country that has reduced covid by instituting a mask mandate.
I can't, but the American Journal of Preventive Medicine can:

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2021-...on-covid-.html

Twenty-seven countries with face mask policies and 17 countries without face mask policies, covering a combined population of nearly one billion people, were included in the study ... The top 50 countries according to the United Nations Development Programme Human Development Index, which measures life expectancy, education, and standard of living, were targeted because of comparability and reduced chance of selection bias. Four countries in the Southern Hemisphere (New Zealand, Australia, Chile, and Argentina) were excluded to avoid potential seasonality characteristics. The United States and Canada were excluded because their public health policies are made at the state/province level and a unified national policy does not exist in those nations. Data from the remaining 44 countries were used to model COVID-19 mortality ... A study of the impact of national face mask laws on COVID-19 mortality in 44 countries with a combined population of nearly one billion people found that over time, the increase in COVID-19 related deaths was significantly slower in countries that imposed mask laws compared to countries that did not. The study, appearing in the American Journal of Preventive Medicine, published by Elsevier, shows that masks provide a supplementary layer of protection that could prevent unnecessary COVID-19 deaths.
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