Covid

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Officials, players, coaches, and fans will all wear masks at all times, however, enforcement for players will not be the responsibility of the officials this year, but the responsibility of game management.

Originally Posted by SC Official

Players wear them like chin straps ...

Unfortunately, I also find this true in my games this year. Had a point guard play 32 minutes with a mask under her chin last week. I didn't say a word, not my job this year.

Last year I had to remind several players over the course of a shortened season to wear their masks properly, with only two, or three, "sit a ticks" for failure to comply.

While I like that I don't have to be the "Mask Police" this year, I also feel less safe. I wish that game management would do their job properly.

[SC Official]

I absolutely refuse to be the mask police in games I officiate (of course, I won’t work anywhere I have to officiate in a mask anymore). It’s bad enough that we have to enforce fashion police rules.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by SC Official

I absolutely refuse to be the mask police in games I officiate. It’s bad enough that we have to enforce fashion police rules.

Agree and agree. Last year we didn't have a choice if we wanted to work. Took some flak from a few parents in the bleachers for doing my job. Glad that they put the responsibility on game management this year, but still wish that they would do their job properly.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by SC Official

I absolutely refuse to be the mask police in games I officiate (of course, I won’t work anywhere I have to officiate in a mask anymore). It’s bad enough that we have to enforce fashion police rules.

We were specifically asked to keep that with the school and coaches. We play no role in that even though the participants are to be masked.

Peace

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

We were specifically asked to keep that with the school and coaches. We play no role in that even though the participants are to be masked.

Same here in Connecticut. Last year officials were the "Mask Police".



JRutledge: Do the coaches, site directors, and athletic directors in Indiana and Illinois do good job of making sure that the players are wearing masks properly because game management is doing a poor job of doing that so far this season in Connecticut.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Same here in Connecticut. Last year officials were the "Mask Police".



JRutledge: Do the coaches, site directors, and athletic directors in Indiana and Illinois do good job of making sure that the players are wearing masks properly because game management is doing a poor job of doing that so far this season in Connecticut.

When did I say that the mask requirement was the same in both Indiana and Illinois?

Peace

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

We were specifically asked to keep that with the school and coaches. We play no role in that even though the participants are to be masked.

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Do the coaches, site directors, and athletic directors in Indiana and Illinois do good job of making sure that the players are wearing masks properly because game management is doing a poor job of doing that so far this season in Connecticut.

Originally Posted by JRutledge

When did I say that the mask requirement was the same in both Indiana and Illinois?

You didn't, but you didn't differentiate states/protocols either ("we") and just left us guessing which one you were talking about. I was just asking how much support you were getting from game management in both states, even if the protocols are different? Feel free to differentiate states and protocols if you decide to reply.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

You didn't, but you didn't differentiate states/protocols either ("we") and just left us guessing which one you were talking about. I was just asking how much support you were getting from game management in both states, even if the protocols are different? Feel free to differentiate states and protocols if you decide to reply.

Because it was irrelevant. We were not asked to tell players what do do with masks. If you want to know there was no requirement in Indiana at all to wear masks and still we were not asked to manage that. Illinois masks are required, but again we are asked not to manage that. Do care what game management supports, not our job from the state level to tell kids what to do. That is all on the coaches and teams. If they do not wear a mask properly, we say nothing.

Peace

[SC Official]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

We were specifically asked to keep that with the school and coaches. We play no role in that even though the participants are to be masked.

Peace

And that’s exactly the way it should be and the way it is this year in my area. Unfortunately last year we were tasked with being the mask police which was completely ridiculous and next to impossible.

[SC Official]

“If it saves just one life” is quite literally the worst argument ever for imposing a certain restriction.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by SC Official

“If it saves just one life” is quite literally the worst argument ever for imposing a certain restriction.

In general, I agree with you, but it depends on the restriction, and I doubt that this young lady, her parents, and siblings, would agree with you.

It's very different when it's made personal.

Originally Posted by BillyMac

At the middle school that I taught at, such a mandatory physical exam discovered a previously undetected major heart problem in one of my students who was trying out for cheerleading. Parents told me that it saved her life.

As the basketball coach, I had parents (some with no medical insurance) complain every year about mandatory annual physical exams for students who simply wanted to try out for the team, with no guarantee to actually make the team.

Back in the late 1960's, when I was in high school, we got free annual pre-tryout physical exams in the nurses office by a school appointed doctor.

Remember a friend of mine's older brother having a previously undetected major heart problem discovered during such an exam, preventing him from trying out for the football team.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by SC Official

“If it saves just one life” is quite literally the worst argument ever for imposing a certain restriction.

Agree that it's often stated (see Connecticut's Ethan's Law) as a knee jerk reaction, but I'm pretty sure that most supporters of a restriction do not mean it literally, but figuratively, and that the restriction would actually save many lives. But how many? And at what cost? Aye, there's the rub.