Monthly D1 Assigning?

[JRutledge]

For the record, this is not about Arbiter. Most college assigning does not even use Arbiter for their games. He was asking about the delay that is taking place because D1 has not assigned many games as they usually has. This has little to do with the software that is used.

Peace

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

He was asking about the delay that is taking place because D1 has not assigned many games as they usually has.

Could be similar to the reason why my scholastic assignor "trickles" out our assignments, so that he could easily make last minute changes, especially in this age of COVID, as was already mentioned by JRutledge.

Originally Posted by JRutledge

... some issues with schedules based on the uncertainty of protocols ... COVID changed a lot of things ...

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Could be similar to the reason why my scholastic assignor "trickles" out our assignments, so that he could easily make last minute changes, especially in this age of COVID, as was already mentioned by JRutledge.

This is really above your skies. Sorry, nothing about this has anything to do with what is happening at your local high school arena. Division 1 drives the college assigning at all levels, because many staffs at all levels of college basketball has to likely account for the officials that might be unavailable to work their games because of bigger checks and opportunities. And there were several D1 conferences that did not pick up any new officials because of COVID challenges to run camps or to they added people just to fill in or be on site if members of the staff were tested positive. The only way the high school stuff comes into play is officials like myself that still work high school will give back games when we get the college game. And honestly, assignors have to deal with that or they will lose officials. Just part of the overall process but not what the OP was about.

Peace

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

This is really above your skies.

Absolutely. You college guys are way up there with Bezos, Branson, and Musk, while I'm down here with Orville and Wilbur.

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Division 1 drives the college assigning at all levels, because many staffs at all levels of college basketball has to likely account for the officials that might be unavailable to work their games because of bigger checks and opportunities.

At a lower level, similar to how most of our local officials would rather work a single high school varsity game for $100 (better game, more prestige, more money) than three recreation games at $25 each.

Of course we also have some local guys who would rather work three recreation games a short drive down the street from where they live at $25 each rather than travel 45 minutes in rush hour traffic to work a $65 subvarsity high school game.

Originally Posted by JRutledge

... the high school stuff comes into play is officials ... that still work high school will give back games when we get the college game. And honestly, assignors have to deal with that or they will lose officials.

Same here. As a former D1 official, our assigner is very understanding in that regard.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Absolutely. You college guys are way up there with Bezos, Branson, and Musk, while I'm down here with Orville and Wilbur.







At a lower level, similar to how most of our local officials would rather work a single high school varsity game for $100 (better game, more prestige, more money) than three recreation games at $25 each.



Of course we also have some local guys who would rather work three recreation games a short drive down the street from where they live at $25 each rather than travel 45 minutes in rush hour traffic to work a $75 subvarsity high school game.







Same here. As a former D1 official, our assigner is very understanding in that regard.

In high school, we don't have a system where if one high school supervisor wants you to work it automatically supersedes another high school supervisor. In college we do. In college, there are D1 officials who have D1 dates assigned to them without knowing what games they'll be working. Lower level assigners have to wait for their D1 heavy hitters to get their D1 dates before they can assign them D2 and D3 games. That is the delay that trickles down to the rest of us and directly ties into the OP's question And the delay in getting out D1 dates is most likely related to COVID protocols at different schools and conferences and the vaccination status of officials.

It's not about accepting a rec assignment 5 minutes from the house versus a high school varsity game 30 minutes away.

There is not always a equivalency or a correlation to what you do in your little corner of Connecticut. It is alright not to make it about your local environment.



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[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Raymond

In high school, we don't have a system where if one high school supervisor wants you to work it automatically supersedes another high school supervisor ... There is not always a equivalency or a correlation to what you do in your little corner of Connecticut.

That for sure. 100% of our high school (70 high schools) varsity, junior varsity, and freshman assignments, as well as many middle school assignments, often scheduled by high school, or systemwide, athletic directors, are assigned by only one single assigner. I've never worked for more than one high school assigner at the same time. Never.

Back when I was younger and wanted to put money in the bank to prepare for three kids going to college, I often worked for three, or four, "mini" assigners (Catholic middle schools, recreation, travel, etc.). I told all of them that I would have to turn back these low level games if I got a late add on high school game. After a few years one "mini" assigner got sick of my allegiance to my high school assigner and gave me an ultimatum to show up for all of his assignments. I quit working games for him. Cost me some cash, but it was his loss.

My Catholic middle school assigner was the best. He used Arbiter and could "see" my high school schedule and my availability. And it was his rule that high school games took precedence over his Catholic middle school games, even at the last minute. Good basketball, great pay, great partners (most with high school state tournament experience, most games in the next town, or nearby towns. I left the league due to arthritis in my ankle and his retirement, but it was a great experience for over thirty years.

Here in my little sheltered corner of Connecticut, I can't imagine a system of multiple high school assigners, and/or where one high school assigner doesn't automatically supersede another high school assigner.

Always for me. Only one local high school board. Only one local high school assigner. Lower level games (Catholic middle schools, recreation, travel, etc.) always an afterthought, a "gig". No colleges.

Maybe I could get used to multiple high school assigners, but with the way my brain works it would blow my mind and I would lose sleep worrying about pissing off one of them, some of them, or all or them.

[Raymond]

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Originally Posted by Raymond

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There is not always a equivalency or a correlation to what you do in your little corner of Connecticut. It is alright not to make it about your local environment.



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I bet there is never a conversation in a locker room or officials' get-together where you don't jump in with your perspective, no matter what the subject is.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Raymond

I bet there is never a conversation in a locker room or officials' get-together where you don't jump in with your perspective, no matter what the subject is.

I am so curious, want everything double checked and confirmed, and want all i's dotted and all t's crossed, that my colleagues have been known to restrict me to three questions at our local meetings.

Everything about basketball officiating interests me, and nothing about basketball officiating doesn't interest me.

Same thing with backyard chickens. Had a periodontist appointment today. Knowing that I raised backyard chickens, my periodontist had many questions for me because his adult daughter (a former student of mine) just started a backyard flock. I was more than pleased to oblige. A normal forty-five minute appointment turned into an hour long appointment.

Being a direct paternal descendant of Niall of the Nine Hostages, King of Tara in northwestern Ireland in the late 4th century C.E., I definitely have the Irish gift of gab.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Absolutely. You college guys are way up there with Bezos, Branson, and Musk, while I'm down here with Orville and Wilbur.

At a lower level, similar to how most of our local officials would rather work a single high school varsity game for $100 (better game, more prestige, more money) than three recreation games at $25 each.

Of course we also have some local guys who would rather work three recreation games a short drive down the street from where they live at $25 each rather than travel 45 minutes in rush hour traffic to work a $65 subvarsity high school game.

Same here. As a former D1 official, our assigner is very understanding in that regard.

In basketball, guys working college ball is often about the opportunity and resume' building than the money. So you might make more working a college game, but you might involve more travel and time away to do that game. I work in a consortium that is associated with the Big Ten (or B1G). There are people that would rather go a couple of hours to work a game because it might help them with the people that actually assign the B1G in the long run. So again, really not the same thing we were discussing here with rec games. There are always officials that will take the easy money over the larger opportunity. Nothing wrong with that but not the issue in what the OPer was saying. Or some like myself work both an NAIA league and a Division 2 League for assignors that are active D1 officials. They also are connected to the same people so if you work camps or go to training, these are the people that will help you get those opportunities. And what better way is if you work for the people that give the feedback? That is one of the reasons why there is a delay in many assignments at this time because everything trickles down in the college ranks. Honestly many officials are not working high school games or a significant amount of games that they even care what the high school assignors want. Many D1 officials I know left the high school game alone or stopped trying to chase those opportunities in that way.

Peace

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

In basketball, guys working college ball is often about the opportunity and resume' building than the money. So you might make more working a college game, but you might involve more travel and time away to do that game ...

Same philosophy here in the high school ranks, but obviously, in an entirely different universe. If I have a choice of working a high school game 55 miles away (my longest ride, have to fight John Deere tractors for a parking space), or lower level games just down the street, I'm working the high school game every single time.

Originally Posted by JRutledge

There are always officials that will take the easy money over the larger opportunity ...

Different priorities. Maybe they see no possibility of advancement to high school varsity games. Maybe they want to stay away from board "politics", confirming games with athletic directors/site directors and partners, business casual dress codes, requirements to stay late to observe varsity games, get there early for pregame conference, check the scorebook, captains/coaches meetings, constructive criticism for other officials, etc. We have more than a few guys who pay their local board dues every year (minimum attendance at meetings, minimum effort on refresher exam, etc.) just to maintain their certification ("members in good standing") allowing them to work their low level games back in their home towns, who block every date on Arbiter with our scholastic assigner, and who never see the inside of a high school gym. Regarding their local low level games, they just want to get in, get out, and get paid, in the least amount of time, with the least amount of (often off court) effort.

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Nothing wrong with that ...

Agree.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Same philosophy here in the high school ranks, but obviously, in an entirely different universe. If I have a choice of working a high school game 55 miles away (my longest ride, have to fight John Deere tractors for a parking space), or lower level games just down the street, I'm working the high school game every single time.


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Again, this is why the OP's situation has nothing to do with how things are done in high school ball or your corner of Connecticut.

In college ball, you are taking the higher level game. So lower level supervisors are waiting for D1 officials to get their D1 games and release their open dates. This is why the OP is having his schedule affected as he waits for his supervisors.



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