new nba shooting foul rules

[Robert Goodman]

Originally Posted by thedewed

if fake someone up but then you jump abnormally, either no call or charge depending on amount of contact. ncaa should do same. shooter must land basically where j u mped from if jump shot. one of exampes with trae nba says is now charge, looked like a no call to me

Does any rules maker actually want to make different provisions for the situation in which a player's fake causes the opponent to move out of position? Has NBA actually done that?

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Robert Goodman

Does any rules maker actually want to make different provisions for the situation in which a player's fake causes the opponent to move out of position? Has NBA actually done that?

The NBA doesn't mention anything specifically about (ball) fakes, but there are changes on the NBA horizon regarding non-basketball actions that initiate contact with a defender.

NBA officiating staffs will be trained to identify and properly rule overt non-basketball actions to initiate contact with defender — such as offensive player launches into defender, abruptly veers off path, kicks leg at abnormal angle, or his off-arm hooks defender. If deemed more than marginal (offensive player's contact impacts the defender's speed, quickness, balance, or rhythm) -- play results in an offensive foul. A no-call should result -- if the contact is deemed marginal.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/...-to-draw-fouls

Also: The NBA is expected to implement new rules to limit non-basketball moves that would result in an offensive foul or no-call beginning next season. NBA referees will be trained to properly officiate the following actions used to draw fouls: Shooter launches/leans into defender at abnormal angle. Shooter kicks leg at abnormal angle. Offensive player abruptly veers off path (sideways/ backwards) into defender.

The NFHS already seems to have this general principle covered. It will probably eventually pop up as a "one and done" Point of Emphasis.

10-7-1: A player must not hold, push, charge, trip or impede the progress of an opponent by extending arm(s), shoulder(s), hip(s) or knee(s), or by bending his/her body into other than a normal position.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

... there are changes on the NBA horizon regarding non-basketball actions that initiate contact with a defender.

These new rules, once applied and enforced properly, will hopefully cost (cheater) James Harden some free throw points, and eventually cost him some big bucks the next time he becomes a free agent, and I say "Hear, hear”.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

... and I say "Hear, hear”.

Next the NBA should tackle the problem of a few, already rich, superstar players colluding (gotta love capitalism and free enterprise) to form their own "loaded" teams designed to immediately win a championship.

Giannis Antetokounmpo with the small market Milwaukee Bucks was a breath of fresh air in NBA this past season, I actually watched a few games in the final series.

Yeah, I know, wrong time, wrong place, a story for another time and place. Sorry. I was the "biggest" NBA fan back in the 1960's/1970's. Larry Bird and Michael Jordan helped to ease the pain a little, but there was no going back.

[Robert Goodman]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

The NBA doesn't mention anything specifically about (ball) fakes, but there are changes on the NBA horizon regarding non-basketball actions that initiate contact with a defender.

Then, inasmuch as faking an opponent off hir feet is a very basketball action, "fake somebody up" looks like spurious detail in the original post.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Robert Goodman

Then, inasmuch as faking an opponent off hir feet is a very basketball action, "fake somebody up" looks like spurious detail in the original post.

The original post if very hard to decipher.