Excessive time-out granted, but...

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Looks like we've got some consensus here.

Nobody, including me, is going to dig one's way deep into the huddle and distract the head coach from setting up a play with his players, just to satisfy the notification rule.

And yet, I've seen officials give this a try like they're digging for gold.

Notify an assistant coach early, as soon as possible (of course, by rule, this isn't kosher).
....

Who decided this isn't kosher? I've only got one person ever object to me telling an assistant coach, and he was an a-hole high school interpreter who didn't like college officials.

I very easily do both. I tell an assistant early and I tell the head coach afte ther huddle breaks before the ball becomes live. It does absolutely nothing to interfere with their time out or the flow of the game.


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[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Raymond

Who decided this isn't kosher? ... I very easily do both. I tell an assistant early and I tell the head coach after their huddle breaks before the ball becomes live. It does absolutely nothing to interfere with their time out or the flow of the game.

By not kosher, I meant that just notifying the assistant coach alone, with no followup confirmation with head coach, doesn't technically fulfill the obligation, by rule, to notify the head coach, although it might fulfill the purpose and intent of the rule.

Agree with everything else.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

By not kosher, I meant that just notifying the assistant coach alone, with no followup confirmation with head coach, doesn't technically fulfill the obligation, by rule, to notify the head coach, although it might fulfill the purpose and intent of the rule.

Agree with everything else.

Well, since I explicitly stated I do follow-up, I'm not understanding how it got applied to my post.

You're the one who alluded to only "possibly" notifying the head coach. You suggested to do something that isn't kosher: "Possibly later, if one has the time, after fulfilling one's other duties, followup and confirm the notification with the head coach at the end of the timeout." You've rewritten my response to fit your pre-determined narrative. When a team has used its last time-out, one of our duties is to notify the head coach. What other duty during a time-out trumps notifying the coach?

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Raymond

Well, since I explicitly stated I do follow-up, I'm not understanding how it got applied to my post. You're the one who alluded to only "possibly" notifying the head coach ...

I'm not even Jewish.

I actually suggested that it wasn't kosher before Raymond's reply, my followup kosher was related to my original kosher.

Originally Posted by BillyMac

New situation ... Notifying a non-head coach adult, who is on on the fringe of the huddle not speaking, early in the timeout so that the information can be communicated to the entire team, possibly for strategy, before the timeout ends. Of course, by rule, this isn't kosher.

I believe that JRutledge also (along with me) alluded to only "possibly" notifying the head coach.

Originally Posted by JRutledge

#3 if I have time or remember. Likely talking to partners so that might not ultimately happen depending on the conversation with partners.

bob jenkins also alluded to it with the word "or".

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

1 or 3.

Like this the best.

Originally Posted by Raymond

1 AND 3. Not mutually exclusive.

Doesn't involve digging into the huddle. Gives and early notification to an adult (for strategy purposes). Gives the, by rule, notification to the head coach.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Raymond

When a team has used its last time-out, one of our duties is to notify the head coach. What other duty during a time-out trumps notifying the coach?

Agree.

Officials getting together to discuss their roles in the final seconds of the game, or an official having short chat with the table crew to make sure that everything is copacetic on their end, or officials moving back to original positions, should not trump notifying the head coach.