Fun With The Act Of Shooting …

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Tough call ... White #3 was an airborne shooter and had not yet returned to the floor (barely, by milliseconds) when she was fouled by Black #15.

The only way that I could make this call was by watching the video at 1/4 speed (only available to IAABO members) and stopping it when White #3 returned to the floor.

At regular speed, I was leaning toward White #3 having returned to the floor and not in the act of shooting, next looking for a live ball/dead ball. The foul occurred during a live ball, the ball was still in flight. Count the basket. Since it appears that White was not in the bonus, give White the ball on the endline.

[JRutledge]

It looks like the arm was hit in the air. And unless obvious, I am calling a shooting foul. This a harder play in a girl's game because players do not jump as high in some of these cases. But no reason to make this complicated and then awarded the ball out of bounds or give a bonus free throw situation. It has to stand out as nothing but after the shot IMO.

Peace

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

But no reason to make this complicated and then awarded the ball out of bounds or give a bonus free throw situation.

Only offered this alternate situation for those that believed that there was a foul, and that the foul came after the shooter contacted the floor.

Just wanted to emphasis that in this alternate case that the ball was still live since it was still in flight, that contacting the floor doesn't automatically make the ball dead (not wanting to go down the "dead ball foul must be intentional, or flagrant" rabbit hole).

In this video, the ball going in the basket makes the ball dead, not anything before that.

Note: Early returns have quite a few IAABO members commenting the shooter returns to the floor before she was fouled.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

The only way that I could make this call was by watching the video at 1/4 speed (only available to IAABO members) and stopping it when White #3 returned to the floor.

At regular speed, I was leaning toward White #3 having returned to the floor and not in the act of shooting, next looking for a live ball/dead ball. The foul occurred during a live ball, the ball was still in flight. Count the basket. Since it appears that White was not in the bonus, give White the ball on the endline.

The swipe by black happens when white is at the apex of her jump. Assuming that's the foul call, it's easy to see she was in the air.

And, I agree with Raymond -- the "way it's called" is to give the benefit of the doubt to a shooting foul -- even if the player has returned to the floor, if they are still "completing the normal actions associated with a shot" (my words) call the shooting foul.