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Old Sun Apr 04, 2021, 02:21pm
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Head Coach Behavior. Should this behavior be considered "major" and a technical foul being assessed? Should a warning have been assessed?

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Three choices: The coach should have been assessed a warning. The coach should have been assessed a technical foul. This is a spontaneous reaction and does not need to be addressed.

My comment: The coach should have been assessed a warning. Coach is outside the coaching box and argues with the official. I do not judge this offense to be a major offense.

Note: Every official has a different level of tolerance and we don't know what happened previously in the game. Was the coach frustrated with his team, down by twenty in the last period, or with the opposing coach, pressing with a big late lead, or with the officiating, or with everything?

Also, what happened to the game clock?
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Old Sun Apr 04, 2021, 02:52pm
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Slapping the table makes this perilously close to a T.

I'm sure it's just some sort of faulty display on the clock -- when the minutes are zero, the center horizontal row of lights turns on.

Don't the stripes on the officials' shirts seem too wide?
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Old Sun Apr 04, 2021, 03:01pm
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Don't the stripes on the officials' shirts seem too wide?
Spotted that also. Or ... are the officials too small?
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Old Sun Apr 04, 2021, 03:13pm
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Don't the stripes on the officials' shirts seem too wide?
Apparently, the NJISAA has its basketball officials wear the ridiculously wide 2.25" stripes.
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Old Sun Apr 04, 2021, 03:23pm
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Slapping the table makes this perilously close to a T.

I'm sure it's just some sort of faulty display on the clock -- when the minutes are zero, the center horizontal row of lights turns on.

Don't the stripes on the officials' shirts seem too wide?
Assuming there has been no previous bench warning issued, I think this at least should be a warning because the coach has to leave the box to slap the table and make the "Call the foul!" comment. Depending on his behavior up until that point or his reputation, I would also understand if the officials went straight a technical foul without a warning.

There is something wrong with the clock inset in that there's some sort of "streaks" covering over some of the scoreboard lights. With the top part of the 7 not displaying, it looks like there's 1 minute to go when this clip starts instead of 7.

I can't remember which but I believe at least one state wants basketball officials to wear wider (2-inch?) stripes for their uniform.
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Old Sun Apr 04, 2021, 03:26pm
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Slapping the table makes this perilously close to a T.

I'm sure it's just some sort of faulty display on the clock -- when the minutes are zero, the center horizontal row of lights turns on.

Don't the stripes on the officials' shirts seem too wide?
Those are the same stripes we wear in Virginia.

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There is something wrong with the clock inset in that there's some sort of "streaks" covering over some of the scoreboard lights. With the top part of the 7 not displaying, it looks like there's 1 minute to go when this clip starts instead of 7.
The thing that's obstructing the scoreboard is another backboard's support system.
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Hey. I thought that I was the only Forum member that put popular culture references in post titles? Geez. Only twenty-two posts and Mike Goodwin already thinks that he owns the place. What happened to paying one's dues? Speaking of which, Mark Padgett, our Forum treasurer, has informed me that Mike Goodwin is late paying his ten dollar annual Forum dues. He wants cash, small, unmarked, non sequential, bills only please. Pay up Mike Goodwin, or it's double secret probation for you and the horse your rode in on.
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You came close to getting me suspended a few weeks ago for your reply, and my follow-up reply, to a Paradise By The Dashboard Light reference.

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Head Coach Behavior. Should this behavior be considered "major" and a technical foul being assessed? Should a warning have been assessed?

https://storage.googleapis.com/refqu...K1X%2F9w%3D%3D

Three choices: The coach should have been assessed a warning. The coach should have been assessed a technical foul. This is a spontaneous reaction and does not need to be addressed.

My comment: The coach should have been assessed a warning. Coach is outside the coaching box and argues with the official. I do not judge this offense to be a major offense.

Note: Every official has a different level of tolerance and we don't know what happened previously in the game. Was the coach frustrated with his team, down by twenty in the last period, or with the opposing coach, pressing with a big late lead, or with the officiating, or with everything?

Also, what happened to the game clock?

At 7:00, just before B1 releases the Ball for a FGA, W-HC yells at the T: "Call the foul!" The instant B1 releases the Ball for her FGA, I am putting air in my whistle and grant W-HC's request for a Foul to be called: A TF against W-HC for UC (To quote Bugs Bunny: "Ain't I a stinker!" ). Coninuous Motion applies, the Ball remains Live and since B1's FGA was successful her FGA counts. W-HC's TF is a DTF and he loses the Coaching Box.

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The thing that's obstructing the scoreboard is another backboard's support system.
Thanks. But why does the clock tick from 1:00 to 6:59 in the fourth period? Odd that that adds up to eight minutes.
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Old Sun Apr 04, 2021, 05:25pm
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To quote Bugs Bunny: "Ain't I a stinker!"
It's sometimes satisfying to charge technical fouls to coaches when their team has the ball. Two free throws, take a seat, and, drum roll please, their team loses the ball. Could be a possible five point turn around. How's that for being a stinker?
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Old Sun Apr 04, 2021, 05:26pm
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It's sometimes satisfying to charge technical fouls to coaches when their team has the ball. Two free throws, take a seat, and their team loses the ball.

It is even better that when the beg you to call a foul and you can oblige them, lol!

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Old Sun Apr 04, 2021, 06:00pm
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Thanks. But why does the clock tick from 1:00 to 6:59 in the fourth period? Odd that that adds up to eight minutes.
It doesn't. The digit for 7 minutes is obscured at the top, then the same happens with the top part of the 6. I watched this whole game and another at the same venue; the scoreboard operates properly. When it's under a minute, the two, left-most positions are the seconds, and the third position from the left is the tenths.

If I could figure out how to shrink pictures on this forum, I would include them.
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