NFHS Substitution Rule

[cozzmokramer]

Anyone ever seen this rule requested by a team captain?

[Rule 3-3-1e]
The official shall grant a captain's request for a defensive match-up if
three or more substitutes from the same team enter the game during a
substitution opportunity.

[JRutledge]

Like maybe once. And it was after a change or clarification of the rule like the next year after the wording change that was made. Never had it happen since.

Peace

[crosscountry55]

Nope. I think this is one of those relic rules that may have been exercised more frequently decades ago when being a captain meant something and the officials actually remembered who that person was more than three seconds after the pre-game conference ended.


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[Raymond]

There is a local coach who has an extremely high basketball IQ, officiated for awhile, and had a cup of tea as an NBA player who has utilized it on multiplre occasions. I'm convinced that sometimes he does it just to see if an official knows the rule.

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[cozzmokramer]

Is this still a rule or has it been changed?

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by cozzmokramer

Is this still a rule or has it been changed?

Still a rule.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by cozzmokramer

Anyone ever seen this rule requested by a team captain?

[Rule 3-3-1e]
The official shall grant a captain's request for a defensive match-up if
three or more substitutes from the same team enter the game during a
substitution opportunity.

All the time.

[cozzmokramer]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

All the time.

I've never seen it requested. So how long does the team captain get to make a matching substitution(s)? Wouldn't this be a way essentially gain extra time outs and/or to slow down teams who like to run 5 players in at a time 5 like Grinnell?

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by cozzmokramer

I've never seen it requested. So how long does the team captain get to make a matching substitution(s)? Wouldn't this be a way essentially gain extra time outs and/or to slow down teams who like to run 5 players in at a time 5 like Grinnell?

If you run in 5 subs, the opponent is allowed to matchup. Maybe Grinnell should run in 2 subs at a time to avoid the delays.

[SC Official]

I must have missed something. Who is Grinnell?

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

... after a change or clarification of the rule like the next year after the wording change that was made ...

Originally Posted by cozzmokramer

Is this still a rule or has it been changed?

Not sure it was changed, or clarified, but it did mistakenly disappear from the rulebook for a few years. After a high school coach friend of mine asked me if it was a real rule or just something the guys at the YMCA made up, I tried to look it up and it was gone. My local interpreter looked into it and suggested that I contact the NFHS, which I did and it was put back into the rulebook in 2003-04.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by crosscountry55

... decades ago when being a captain meant something and the officials actually remembered who that person was more than three seconds after the pre-game conference ended.

Connecticut COVID protocols include only allowing the referee, and the head coach and one captain from each team at the pregame coaches-officials-captains pregame meeting. Makes for a streamlined meeting. Let's keep the guideline next year.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by cozzmokramer

So how long does the team captain get to make a matching substitution(s)?

We used to do these lineup matchups around one of the three jump ball circles, back when there were three jump ball circles.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by cozzmokramer

I've never seen it requested. So how long does the team captain get to make a matching substitution(s)? Wouldn't this be a way essentially gain extra time outs and/or to slow down teams who like to run 5 players in at a time 5 like Grinnell?

The rule does not mention anything about "matching substitutions."

[SC Official]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Connecticut COVID protocols include only allowing the referee, and the head coach and one captain from each team at the pregame coaches-officials-captains pregame meeting. Makes for a streamlined meeting. Let's keep the guideline next year.

Let's get rid of the pregame shenanigans period.