Personal space

[JRutledge]

I will put it this way. I see hands on the ball handler too which was before the contact. The ball handler did not appear to seek the contact of the defender, the defender was touching the ball handler. So again if that is the case I would rule this contact with the face incidental. If he seeked out to make contact with the elbow, then maybe.

Again this is a situation I think the NF needs to address better but just because you had contact with an elbow, does not mean it is automatically a foul.

Peace

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

... just because you had contact with an elbow, does not mean it is automatically a foul.

Agree, and the NFHS agrees with both of us:

2012-13 Points Of Emphasis Contact Above The Shoulders
Examples of illegal contact above the shoulders and resulting penalties.
1. Contact with a stationary elbow may be incidental or a common foul.

Originally Posted by JRutledge

...this is a situation I think the NF needs to address better ...

Agree, like having it in the current rulebook and casebook instead of just being an eight year old Point Of Emphasis.

[Valley Man]

3 seems to be what we call a "sh^^ put-er in-er"

go back before the play and he attempts a well contest 3 on the corner and wants a foul

then he does this

agree I like the call

[Multiple Sports]

MTD - I think we may be the only two on this site that ever met this amazing gentleman. I first met him in 91( ? ) at
George Tolliver's camp at JMU. He may have been in his early 70's but was as sharp as a tack.