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Old Mon Nov 30, 2020, 11:35am
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Rut, thanks. Note that play #1 was changed to a defensive cylinder foul after a monitor review.
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Old Mon Nov 30, 2020, 11:39am
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I completely understand Lee's initial confusion on play #3. The play looks like a block/charge in which case sending it the other way certainly would have been the correct ruling. Thankfully they end up clearing it up and ruling a defensive foul on VT.
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Old Mon Nov 30, 2020, 11:43am
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Play #1, I understand that the rule is written in such a way that they have to go with a cylinder foul at the monitor, but I just don't believe the rule was meant to not penalize offensive players for what is a clear excessive action - the ball handler knew what he was doing.

In my games without a monitor, I have an F1/intentional on the ball handler for contact that is unnecessary and excessive. (And I am not even considering the FED's contact above the shoulders interp that disappeared.)
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Old Mon Nov 30, 2020, 01:45pm
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That would be a hard sell as the old L/new T. As C that could be a possibility,but i think you'd have to lean on the old POE.
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Old Mon Nov 30, 2020, 02:18pm
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1. PC foul only.
2. Yes, foul on orange.
3. Illegal screen...screener was still moving and leaning into the path of the defender all the way to contact, not getting to the spot and allowing 1-2 steps for the opponent to avoid it.
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Old Mon Nov 30, 2020, 02:42pm
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3. Illegal screen...screener was still moving and leaning into the path of the defender all the way to contact, not getting to the spot and allowing 1-2 steps for the opponent to avoid it.
I think 1 step is sufficient at this speed and I have him giving
that. It's close, though.
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Old Mon Nov 30, 2020, 03:12pm
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3. Illegal screen...screener was still moving and leaning into the path of the defender all the way to contact, not getting to the spot and allowing 1-2 steps for the opponent to avoid it.
That was my initial thought also, but I seemed to be in a small minority with that opinion and I'm not motivated yet for debates...LOL
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Old Mon Nov 30, 2020, 08:10pm
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That was my initial thought also, but I seemed to be a small minority with that opinion and I'm not motivated yet for debates...LOL
Eric Lewis, on one of the Facebook forums, concurs with the illegal screen ruling for continuing to move into the defender.
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Old Thu Dec 10, 2020, 03:05pm
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3. Illegal screen...screener was still moving and leaning into the path of the defender all the way to contact, not getting to the spot and allowing 1-2 steps for the opponent to avoid it.
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That was my initial thought also, but I seemed to be in a small minority with that opinion and I'm not motivated yet for debates...LOL
JD Collins agrees with us. Here is the NCAA Weekly Whistle #2 video discussing two plays from this thread.

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Old Mon Nov 30, 2020, 02:41pm
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Rut, thanks. Note that play #1 was changed to a defensive cylinder foul after a monitor review.
I forgot about that because it doesn't apply in any of the rules sets I work
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