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Old Sat Nov 28, 2020, 08:59pm
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With 1:03 left in the 1H a player control foul is changed to a defensive cylinder foul. I have to admit, in a FED game or a college game without a monitor, I can’t imagine I would go with anything other than an F1/intentional on the ball handler.
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Old Sat Nov 28, 2020, 10:09pm
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27.7 in the 2H is a great call by the C where the prone defender takes out the offensive player’s legs
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Old Sat Nov 28, 2020, 10:18pm
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1.3 left in the 2H. T signals an offensive foul on Nova, after discussion they change the foul to one on VT. Nova makes two FTs to send it into overtime.

Edit: R went over to the commentators and stated that the T just gave the wrong signal and had a defensive foul all along. Bad look, but I think they got it right.

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With 1:03 left in the 1H a player control foul is changed to a defensive cylinder foul. I have to admit, in a FED game or a college game without a monitor, I can’t imagine I would go with anything other than an F1/intentional on the ball handler.


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27.7 in the 2H is a great call by the C where the prone defender takes out the offensive player’s legs


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1.3 left in the 2H. T signals an offensive foul on Nova, after discussion they change the foul to one on VT. Nova makes two FTs to send it into overtime.

Edit: R went over to the commentators and stated that the T just gave the wrong signal and had a defensive foul all along. Bad look, but I think they got it right.


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Old Mon Nov 30, 2020, 11:19am
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1) PC Foul only

2) Foul on Orange

3) Foul on Orange (Legal screen)
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Old Mon Nov 30, 2020, 11:35am
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Rut, thanks. Note that play #1 was changed to a defensive cylinder foul after a monitor review.
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Old Mon Nov 30, 2020, 11:37am
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1) Defensive foul
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Old Mon Nov 30, 2020, 11:39am
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I completely understand Lee's initial confusion on play #3. The play looks like a block/charge in which case sending it the other way certainly would have been the correct ruling. Thankfully they end up clearing it up and ruling a defensive foul on VT.
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Old Mon Nov 30, 2020, 11:43am
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Play #1, I understand that the rule is written in such a way that they have to go with a cylinder foul at the monitor, but I just don't believe the rule was meant to not penalize offensive players for what is a clear excessive action - the ball handler knew what he was doing.

In my games without a monitor, I have an F1/intentional on the ball handler for contact that is unnecessary and excessive. (And I am not even considering the FED's contact above the shoulders interp that disappeared.)
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That would be a hard sell as the old L/new T. As C that could be a possibility,but i think you'd have to lean on the old POE.
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1. PC foul only.
2. Yes, foul on orange.
3. Illegal screen...screener was still moving and leaning into the path of the defender all the way to contact, not getting to the spot and allowing 1-2 steps for the opponent to avoid it.
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Old Mon Nov 30, 2020, 02:41pm
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Rut, thanks. Note that play #1 was changed to a defensive cylinder foul after a monitor review.
I forgot about that because it doesn't apply in any of the rules sets I work
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Old Mon Nov 30, 2020, 02:42pm
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3. Illegal screen...screener was still moving and leaning into the path of the defender all the way to contact, not getting to the spot and allowing 1-2 steps for the opponent to avoid it.
I think 1 step is sufficient at this speed and I have him giving
that. It's close, though.
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