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Old Thu Nov 19, 2020, 11:54am
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You can't?
Goaltending is only for tries. You can have BI on throwin and attempts at wrong goal.
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Old Thu Nov 19, 2020, 12:33pm
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You can't?
Goaltending is when a player touches the ball during a try, or tap, while it is in its downward flight, entirely above the basket ring level, outside the imaginary cylinder above the ring, and has the possibility of entering the basket.

(Or a player touches the ball outside the cylinder during a free-throw attempt.)

Situation: Team A trails Team B 67 to 66 with 0.4 seconds left in the fourth period. A1 makes a throwin pass. Ball is in its downward flight, entirely above the basket ring level, outside the imaginary cylinder above the ring, has an excellent chance of entering the basket, and the ball is swatted to the floor by B1, followed by time expiring and the horn sounding in front of Team A's home crowd of 1,500 vociferous fans.

Whatcha got?
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Old Thu Nov 19, 2020, 01:41pm
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Situation: Team A trails Team B 67 to 66 with 0.4 seconds left in the fourth period. A1 makes a throwin pass. Ball is in its downward flight, entirely above the basket ring level, outside the imaginary cylinder above the ring, has an excellent chance of entering the basket, and the ball is swatted to the floor by B1, followed by time expiring and the horn sounding in front of Team A's home crowd of 1,500 vociferous fans.

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The end of the game and a police escort.
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Old Thu Nov 19, 2020, 02:36pm
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Ok, BI not GT. Thanks for clarifying.
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Old Fri Nov 20, 2020, 12:10am
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Goaltending is when a player touches the ball during a try, or tap, while it is in its downward flight, entirely above the basket ring level, outside the imaginary cylinder above the ring, and has the possibility of entering the basket.

(Or a player touches the ball outside the cylinder during a free-throw attempt.)

Situation: Team A trails Team B 67 to 66 with 0.4 seconds left in the fourth period. A1 makes a throwin pass. Ball is in its downward flight, entirely above the basket ring level, outside the imaginary cylinder above the ring, has an excellent chance of entering the basket, and the ball is swatted to the floor by B1, followed by time expiring and the horn sounding in front of Team A's home crowd of 1,500 vociferous fans.

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Basket interference, score 2 points for A, A wins, game over. After awaarding the points for the basket interference by B, get out of Dodge.
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Old Fri Nov 20, 2020, 06:54am
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Basket interference, score 2 points for A, A wins, game over. After awaarding the points for the basket interference by B, get out of Dodge.
Why would the game be over if it were BI?

(edited to clarify)

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Old Fri Nov 20, 2020, 09:18am
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Basket interference, score 2 points for A, A wins, game over. After awaarding the points for the basket interference by B, get out of Dodge.
This is nothing. Ball is outside the cylinder, so no BI. Clock starts on B1’s legal touch and the game is over. Run off the court ... even in Massachusetts!
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Old Fri Nov 20, 2020, 09:59am
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Basket interference, score 2 points for A, A wins, game over. After awaarding the points for the basket interference by B, get out of Dodge.
Other than touching the ball outside the cylinder while reaching through the basket from below, can you EVER have BI when the ball is outside the cylinder?
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Old Fri Nov 20, 2020, 10:29am
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Other than touching the ball outside the cylinder while reaching through the basket from below, can you EVER have BI when the ball is outside the cylinder?
No you cannot. And it is not a try so it is not GT either.

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Old Fri Nov 20, 2020, 11:20am
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Basket interference, score 2 points for A, A wins, game over. After awaarding the points for the basket interference by B, get out of Dodge.
Can I get a heehaw for this donkey answer?

You just awarded the win to the wrong team!
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Old Fri Nov 20, 2020, 11:59am
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Seriously, give ilyazhito a break. He probably either overlooked the "outside the cylinder" or inadvertently read it as "inside."

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Old Fri Nov 20, 2020, 01:00pm
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Basket Interference ...

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Situation: Team A trails Team B 67 to 66 with 0.4 seconds left in the fourth period. A1 makes a throwin pass. Ball is in its downward flight, entirely above the basket ring level, outside the imaginary cylinder above the ring, has an excellent chance of entering the basket, and the ball is swatted to the floor by B1, followed by time expiring and the horn sounding in front of Team A's home crowd of 1,500 vociferous fans.
To be fair to ilyazhito, as stated by SC Official, there is one way that basket interference could have been correctly called. I never stated how B1 got to the ball.

I'm not any better than the NFHS or IAABO at writing good unambiguous questions.

4-6-3: Basket interference occurs when a player: Touches the ball outside the cylinder while reaching through the basket from below.
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Old Fri Nov 20, 2020, 01:12pm
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The Lights Went Out In Massachusetts (The Bee Gees, 1967) ...

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Run off the court ... even in Massachusetts!
Funny.

ODog: Care to explain for the newer Forum members who are not from Massachusetts who may fail to see any humor in this?

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Old Fri Nov 20, 2020, 01:16pm
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The Mouse Ran Up The Clock ...

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Basket interference, score 2 points for A, A wins, game over.
Is the game over? Would the clock start on the illegal touch?

5-9-4: If play is resumed by a throw-in, the clock must be started when the ball touches, or is legally touched by, a player on the court after it is released by the thrower.
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Old Fri Nov 20, 2020, 01:23pm
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Is the game over? Would the clock start on the illegal touch?
Already asked (but not answered) up in post #22.

And, if this had been an AP throw-in, would the arrow switch?
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