The Upcoming Season WAYGD?

[SNIPERBBB]

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

Mark, last game officiated/umpired was Wed, Mar. 11th: college softball in Florida. By the time we were having lunch on our way home on Fri., Mar. 13th, his entired H.S. baseball and H.S. and college softball schedule had been canceled.

While there has been youth baseball and softball tournaments and a couple of college sponsered H.S. basketball team camps this Summer, Mark, Jr., choose not to umpire baseball and softball (nor officiate basketball) this Summer because he did not want to risk being infected with the SARS-CoV-2 virus; that is not fear talking, that is science talking.

Yes, he lost a considerable revenue stream this Spring, he lost 5 Div. I conference weekends and a possible NCAA Div. II or Div. III Regional. But we let science prevail and not politics. We are seeing the results of not listening to the STEM professionals.


Earlier this week in interviews on CNN:

Dr. Deborah Birx: https://www.cnn.com/videos/health/20...s/coronavirus/

and

Dr. Anthony Fauci: https://www.cnn.com/world/live-news/...cdb547684b2645


We have seen out breaks of COVID-19 because of large gatherings where the wearing of masks and physical/social distancing protocols were not followed: Just think of President Trumps political rally in Tulsa, Oklahoma, the number of his staffers that tested positive for COVID-19 and Herman Cain not only contracting COVID-19 but dying from it.

Now look at how these protocols are being ingnored on college campuses, by the rank-and-file college students. Colleges are proving unable to insure that its students will follow safety protocols and K-12 public school districts are seeing outbreaks of COVID-19. And let us not forget Sturgis, South Dakota; how long will it before we see the consequences of that gathering.

Those in power at the highest levels listened to money instead of listening to the STEM experts. And our country is now suffering from it. I am reminded of the meme that has made the rounds of social media: "At the beginning of a disaster movie is a scientist whom the politicians ignore."

MTD, Sr.

Cain traveled a lot in the weeks prior to the rally . Personally wouldn't rak medical advice from someone that told his AIDS patients they could have sex with anyone if theirblevels fell below detection thresholds and been wrong about every outbreak since and every step of this outbreak. And neither of those have treated patients in years.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by SNIPERBBB

Cain traveled a lot in the weeks prior to the rally . Personally wouldn't rak medical advice from someone that told his AIDS patients they could have sex with anyone if theirblevels fell below detection thresholds and been wrong about every outbreak since and every step of this outbreak. And neither of those have treated patients in years.

Herman Cain was not a medical doctor. He was a business man.

MTD, Sr.

[SNIPERBBB]

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

Herman Cain was not a medical doctor. He was a business man.

MTD, Sr.

Did I say was a doctor? I said he traveled a lot prior to Tulsa so linking his death to Tulsa is disingenuous. The rest of the rest of the comments were in reference to Lord Pope Fauci, the Oft Wrong and Pompous and fellow unlicensed Dr. Birx.

[LRZ]

If Cain was healthy when he went to the Tulsa rally and became sick shortly afterwards, it is a fair, reasonable inference that he may have been infected there. Open to disagreement, but certainly not disingenuous (deceitful, dishonest) at all.

From whom do you get your medical advice? And, please, let's not descend to the level of schoolyard name-calling.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by LRZ

If Cain was healthy when he went to the Tulsa rally and became sick shortly afterwards, it is a fair, reasonable inference that he may have been infected there. Open to disagreement, but certainly not disingenuous (deceitful, dishonest) at all.

No, it isn't a reasonable inference, at least not any more than the dozen other places he may have been in the week or two prior to becoming sick. Where did he have dinner the day before he left for the rally? Where did he buy his groceries the day after he returned??

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

No, it isn't a reasonable inference, at least not any more than the dozen other places he may have been in the week or two prior to becoming sick. Where did he have dinner the day before he left for the rally? Where did he buy his groceries the day after he returned??

The inference is that he did not take it seriously or as a threat to his health and the health of others. He did not wear a mask there, he likely did not wear one any other place where people were around. We will never know exactly the place, but we know he went to a rally and wore nothing and openly thought it was not something to worry about (social media Tweets, even after he died ).

So if he got sick not taking it seriously, there are likely others that have been in the same situation and have died. Actually there are people in some positions that openly said it was not a big deal, later to find out they died too.

Peace

[LRZ]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

No, it isn't a reasonable inference, at least not any more than the dozen other places he may have been in the week or two prior to becoming sick. Where did he have dinner the day before he left for the rally? Where did he buy his groceries the day after he returned??

It is reasonable, perhaps not the only one, but one possibility among a number. Or he might have been exposed and infected on several of those occasions. But if he were mask-less in those other venues as well, the point is made, regardless.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

No, it isn't a reasonable inference, at least not any more than the dozen other places he may have been in the week or two prior to becoming sick. Where did he have dinner the day before he left for the rally? Where did he buy his groceries the day after he returned??

I've been going to grocery stores on a regular basis since the pandemic started. I've been going to restaurants since the end of May. In both of those situations I am easily able to socially distance myself. Cain was not socially distancing himself at the convention, nor were an overwhelming majority of the people who attended, not to mention no other activity he did prior or after would have him around that many people at one time in one space. So no, it is not reasonable nor intellectually honest to state his chances to have caught it at the Tulsa rally were not greater than at other venues, businesses, or facilities.

[ChuckS]

Also the time of exposure is very important. Time spent at the rally was way more than time spent at a supermarket.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Raymond

I've been going to grocery stores on a regular basis since the pandemic started. I've been going to restaurants since the end of May. In both of those situations I am easily able to socially distance myself. Cain was not socially distancing himself at the convention, nor were an overwhelming majority of the people who attended, not to mention no other activity he did prior or after would have him around that many people at one time in one space. So no, it is not reasonable nor intellectually honest to state his chances to have caught it at the Tulsa rally were not greater than at other venues, businesses, or facilities.

You're assuming what else he did or did not do in the days before an after the rally. Unless you know something I don't, you can't make any claim that it was more likely from the rally. Maybe he visited a nursing home in NYC.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by SNIPERBBB

Did I say was a doctor? I said he traveled a lot prior to Tulsa so linking his death to Tulsa is disingenuous. The rest of the rest of the comments were in reference to Lord Pope Fauci, the Oft Wrong and Pompous and fellow unlicensed Dr. Birx.

I think we can make several infurances by what happened to Cain if he died and we are not aware of the others he could have infected. We know he had the virus, his family confirmed that several times. So even if he did not get it at that rally, he could have given it to someone that was there and many were not wearing a mask at all. I personally would be a little concerned if I found out I was around someone that had the virus and did not do things to help prevent the spread. Then that person dies as well? Sorry, very much a decent assumption that this person did not care about who he could hurt by not at doing the very least.

Peace

[SNIPERBBB]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I think we can make several infurances by what happened to Cain if he died and we are not aware of the others he could have infected. We know he had the virus, his family confirmed that several times. So even if he did not get it at that rally, he could have given it to someone that was there and many were not wearing a mask at all. I personally would be a little concerned if I found out I was around someone that had the virus and did not do things to help prevent the spread. Then that person dies as well? Sorry, very much a decent assumption that this person did not care about who he could hurt by not at doing the very least.

Peace

You'd have to know you had the virus or exposed to be concerned about spreading it. I doubt he would of went if he thought he was infected.

As for information, I work for a hospital and her bombarded with information every day.

[LRZ]

I volunteer at a hospital and I too am bombarded with information, none of which is as cavalier about the dangers of COVID-19 as you seem to be.

I'm also aware of how little was initially known about coronavirus, a plausible explanation for erroneous prognostications and medical advice and information that later changed as we learned more.

You handle medical wastes, I recall you saying in another thread. You have also referred to nurses in a way that suggests that you are neither a doctor nor a nurse. Regardless of your official job title, it's clear from your posts that you are in the "exaggerated peril" or "hoax" camp. Some of us prefer to be more cautious.

[SNIPERBBB]

Nothing wrong with being cautious. I'm a guy that if I'm not comfortable with a situation, I'm out. You have to way the risks And determine what's appropriate for you. Ive been saying from the start that if you're in the retirement window or a cancer patient or suffer immune system deficiencies you need to be careful and I'm going to avoid you as much as possible.

I'm not the one forcing covid patients in nursing homes then getting a book deal out of it.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by LRZ

... the "exaggerated peril" or "hoax" camp.

I'm really getting tired of people interviewed on television, or in the newspaper, who don't wear a mask and then cite that the purpose of a mask is to protect one's self, that masks can't filter out tiny virus particles, and that they should be able to control their own health.

They're partly correct, virus particles are extremely small, and masks can do very little (recent research shows that they can help a little) to protect one's self.

Why don't they get the real scientific reason for wearing a mask?

One wears a mask to protect others.

The mask can filter out the larger respiratory droplets exhaled, sneezed, or coughed out by those infected with the virus (many or whom may be presymptomatic or asymptomatic and not realize that they are infected).

Filtering out these larger respiratory droplets means that the virus particles within these larger respiratory droplets are also filtered out. Masks can decrease the virus particles from spreading to those are at high risk, or to healthy individuals who may then spread it to those at high risk.

These individuals show their scientific ignorance by falsely stating the purpose of masks. What else are they scientifically ignorant about?