NFHS 2020,21 POE's

[Freddy]

Palming/Carrying

Across the country, more and more players are being allowed to illegally dribble the basketball. Likely, a combination of increased viewing of other players doing this act and poor enforcement of the rules by officials has led to this decline in proper fundamentals.

The dribble begins by pushing, throwing or batting the ball to the floor before the pivot foot is lifted. (4-15-3) The act of palming/carryingis when the dribbler allows the ball to come to rest in one or both hands and then continues dribbling. (4-15-4b) This causes the dribble to end and is a violation.



Clarification of Intentional and Flagrant Fouls

There is a distinct difference between an Intentional Foul and a Flagrant Foul. A foul should be ruled an Intentional Foul when a player, while playing the ball, causes excessive contact. It should be called away from the ball when it’s a non-basketball play. These are considered either personal or technical fouls.

A Flagrant Foul is violent in nature or a noncontact play demonstrating unacceptable or uncivil behavior. The penalty for a Flagrant Foul is immediate ejection.

There is a concern that there is lack of enforcement for Intentional Fouls. Fouling has become a strategic part at the end of game and officials need to understand the differences between common fouls, Intentional Fouls, and Flagrant Fouls and have the conviction to make the correct call. Was it a basketball play or simply an attempt to stop the clock? As an official, getting the first foul is critical and will help prevent the game from becoming more physical.

Intentional Foul

4-19-ART. 3 An Intentional foul is a personal or technical foul that may or may not be premeditated and is not based solely on the severity of the act. Intentional fouls include, but are not limited to:

Contact that neutralizes an opponent's obvious advantageous position.
Contact away from the ball with an opponent who is clearly not involved with a play.
Contact that is not a legitimate attempt to play the ball/player specifically designed to stop the clock or keep it from starting.
Excessive contact with an opponent while the ball is live or until an airborne shooter returns to the floor.
Contact with a thrower-in as in 9-2-10 PENALTY 4.
Flagrant Foul

4-19-ART.4 A flagrant foul may be a personal or technical foul of a violent, savage or uncivil nature, or a technical noncontact foul which displays unacceptable conduct. It may or may not be intentional. If personal, it involves, but is not limited to violent contact such as: striking, kicking and kneeing. If technical, it involves dead-ball contact or noncontact at any time which is extreme or persistent, vulgar or abusive conduct. Fighting is a flagrant act.

[BillyMac]

The act of palming/carrying is when the dribbler allows the ball to come to rest in one or both hands and then continues dribbling.

I occasionally will call palming/carrying when the ball handler "cups" the ball in one hand and takes steps (usually around a corner) in excess of the travel rule (without waiting for the ball to be next dribbled). Technically a travel, but aren't other forms of carrying technically an illegal (double) dribble?

From my Misunderstood Rules list: Palming, or carrying, is when the ball comes to rest in the dribbler's hand, and the player either travels with the ball, or illegally dribbles a second time. There is no restriction as to how high a player may bounce the ball, provided the dribbler’s hand stays on top of the ball, and the ball does not come to rest in the dribbler’s hand. Steps taken during a dribble are not traveling, including several that are sometimes taken when a high dribble takes place. It is not possible for a player to travel during a dribble. It is not a dribble when a player stands still and holds the ball and touches it to the floor once or more than once.

[JRutledge]

I am wondering if during this "lockdown" that they have been seen the pure ignorance from officials across the country about what is a Block-Charge call should be as part of the influence. I have seen a lot of these plays posted all over social media only to find officials using terms or terminology that does not fit the rule. I have to think someone was seeing this and felt the need to put this out there. Most of the plays I have seen have been block-charge calls.

Peace

[SC Official]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I am wondering if during this "lockdown" that they have been seen the pure ignorance from officials across the country about what is a Block-Charge call should be as part of the influence. I have seen a lot of these plays posted all over social media only to find officials using terms or terminology that does not fit the rule. I have to think someone was seeing this and felt the need to put this out there. Most of the plays I have seen have been block-charge calls.

Peace

So true.

I am really tired of seeing ignorant responses to block/charge plays in social media. And then when you ask them to cite the rule support for their idiotic opinion, they get all defensive and say they don’t need the rules.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by SC Official

So true.



I am really tired of seeing ignorant responses to block/charge plays in social media. And then when you ask them to cite the rule support for their idiotic opinion, they get all defensive and say they don’t need the rules.

How true this is. Especially the part about them being defensive. You ask them a simple question or to clarify something and they say "well that's just might judgment and we agree to disagree".

Good luck trying to communicate with coaches and supervisors with that attitude.

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[SC Official]

Originally Posted by Raymond

How true this is. Especially the part about them being defensive. You ask them a simple question or to clarify something and they say "well that's just might judgment and we agree to disagree".

Good luck trying to communicate with coaches and supervisors with an attitude.

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So true.

The best is a thread I saw recently where there was a clear unsporting act by a player, and everyone except one poster in the thread said they would T the player. The one poster was convinced he had the best game management skills because he would let the kid slide and that he "didn't need the rules." He doubled down each time he got challenged, hurling insults as well, until people eventually just gave up/the mods kicked him out.

I inferred that he was merely a street ball official and honestly a lot of the clowns in those groups probably are. But I have seen some officials that work (or at least, they claim to) college basketball and just post ridiculous nonsense with no rules support that only they believe.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Raymond

How true this is. Especially the part about them being defensive. You ask them a simple question or to clarify something and they say "well that's just might judgment and we agree to disagree".

Good luck trying to communicate with coaches and supervisors with an attitude.

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Agree. Way too much of the time, people just want to wing it rather than base it on the rules.