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Old Sat Jan 25, 2020, 11:22pm
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From your description it is unclear if the C had a whistle. For the C to have an opinion on the play he needs to have a whistle. If he didn't blow there nothing he should be doing nothing other than assuming his new position for the throw-in.



I'm going to pull up the game on Synergy when it is available. If there was a screen developing near the division line, the Center needs to stop and officiate the match-up. He would be the primary on a double whistle, but with no whistle we don't go to our partners giving our opinions on what should be called.


Fair enough. He didn’t have a whistle. He probably wishes he had in retrospect, but he didn’t. T’s whistle was almost immediate, probably because of both his surprise and the force of the collision. So C didn’t get much of a chance to process the play. But I’ll bet he knew the call was wrong a split second later. Half the offense and the whole bench sure did.

You know in football information causes flags to get picked up once in a while. I sometimes wish that mentality were more prevalent in basketball (out of bounds calls notwithstanding).


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Old Sun Jan 26, 2020, 03:09am
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Here you go...

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Old Sun Jan 26, 2020, 04:05am
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Fair enough. He didn’t have a whistle. He probably wishes he had in retrospect, but he didn’t. T’s whistle was almost immediate, probably because of both his surprise and the force of the collision. So C didn’t get much of a chance to process the play. But I’ll bet he knew the call was wrong a split second later. Half the offense and the whole bench sure did.

You know in football information causes flags to get picked up once in a while. I sometimes wish that mentality were more prevalent in basketball (out of bounds calls notwithstanding).


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Perhaps he didn't have a whistle because there was no foul. Hard to uncall a partner's foul call or prevent them from calling one.
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Old Sun Jan 26, 2020, 08:11am
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Perhaps he didn't have a whistle because there was no foul. Hard to uncall a partner's foul call or prevent them from calling one.


With the benefit of hindsight, what’s your opinion? Push on R22 or incident contact?


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Old Sun Jan 26, 2020, 08:18am
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With the benefit of hindsight, what’s your opinion? Push on R22 or incident contact?


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I don't even need hindsight. First time I saw the play run through, my immediate thought was, that's not a foul.

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Old Sun Jan 26, 2020, 08:27am
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I don't even need hindsight. First time I saw the play run through, my immediate thought was, that's not a foul.

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This is why I hate when people training new officials say things like, “When a player goes down like that, there has to be a whistle.”


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Old Sun Jan 26, 2020, 07:48pm
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Incidental contact....on first viewing, not hindsight. The screen was legal by a long shot. The defender, not seeing it, ran into it and not through it....the screen did its job, play on.
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Old Mon Jan 27, 2020, 02:21pm
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I watched the game live on TV. I thought it was a play-on despite the hard contact involved. The screener gave the defender enough time and space to avoid the contract.
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Old Tue Jan 28, 2020, 02:04pm
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Do you have a call if the screener goes down rather than the screen....(ee?) (ed?)?
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