Tip with .2 seconds waved off

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Rufus

All that being said, why are all three officials making a call in this case? Shouldn't it just be one?

It should if the only issue is whether the shot is off. I have no problem with another official making a ruling if they clearly see a catch and shoot. But that needs to be discussed, which it appears they did. But I would not be ruling on this without definite knowledge of this play. The lead honestly is the last person in this kind of play to be doing so.

There was a play at the college level some years ago where a full court pass resulted in a last-second shot and the new lead waived off the shot on a clear catch and shoot. There was even a video posted here. I am going to see if I can find the play and post it. That was a great example of making a clear ruling and not being the official making the last-second shot determination.

Peace

[SC Official]

I always cover last-second shots in my pregame.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by SC Official

I always cover last-second shots in my pregame.

I know what you are doing here, but I think you should if for no other reason to know what philosophies your partner thinks. And one of the things I always discuss, for the most part, is if we give up the responsibility from the T or C, then we need to discuss if he can to make that clear what we are doing in that shot. Like a full-court pass or a shot in the corner.

Peace

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I know what you are doing here, but I think you should if for no other reason to know what philosophies your partner thinks. And one of the things I always discuss, for the most part, is if we give up the responsibility from the T or C, then we need to discuss if he can to make that clear what we are doing in that shot. Like a full-court pass or a shot in the corner.

Peace

Yep. I add that "everyone should have an opinion" -- (almost) nothing that happens away from the ball will matter here.

[Camron Rust]

It is almost as if they decided that a player couldn't "score" with 0.3 or less instead of couldn't catch and shoot. Or decided that it would have to be a tip at the basket only.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

It is almost as if they decided that a player couldn't "score" with 0.3 or less instead of couldn't catch and shoot. Or decided that it would have to be a tip at the basket only.

Speculating, but if they had previously decided that a player could not score and/or not to count any tip way from the basket, maybe they were mostly looking only for fouls in the last 0.2 seconds? No fouls? Game over?

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Speculating, but if they had previously decided that a player could not score and/or not to count any tip way from the basket, maybe they were mostly looking only for fouls in the last 0.2 seconds? No fouls? Game over?

Speculating? Yes. But why else would all 3 come out strong and instantly in canceling the shot if they had not previously agreed it couldn't count.