When Do They Travel ???

[LRZ]

In true BillyMac mode, let's change the scenario slightly.

Two airborne teammates jointly control the ball on a rebound, and each alights simultaneously on both feet. A1 and A2 each move one foot in attempting to wrestle the ball from each other; A2 then moves his/her pivot foot.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by LRZ

In true BillyMac mode, let's change the scenario slightly.

Two airborne teammates jointly control the ball on a rebound, and each alights simultaneously on both feet. A1 and A2 each move one foot in attempting to wrestle the ball from each other; A2 then moves his/her pivot foot.

If by "moves his/her pivot foot" you mean A2 lifts his/her pivot foot and returns it to the floor all while both are still holding the ball, you then have a travel....if either travel, it is a travel.

[LRZ]

Yes, a lesson for the young 'uns, as BillyMac would say.

[BillyMac]

Did somebody invoke my name?

Originally Posted by LRZ

In true BillyMac mode, let's change the scenario slightly ... A1 and A2 each move one foot in attempting to wrestle the ball from each other; A2 then moves his/her pivot foot.

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

If by "moves his/her pivot foot" you mean A2 lifts his/her pivot foot and returns it to the floor all while both are still holding the ball, you then have a travel....if either travel, it is a travel.

Originally Posted by LRZ

Yes, a lesson for the young 'uns, as BillyMac would say.

Camron is correct where he describes A2 as "lift(ing) his/her pivot foot and return(ing) it to the floor". 100% illegal.

For the yong'uns, just lifting the pivot foot alone is not enough to make this illegal. A2 can lift the pivot foot and legally pass, shoot, request a timeout (or leave the pivot foot in the air until the end of the period). Of course, under these circumstances, A2 may not start a dribble since he's already lifted his pivot foot.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

For the yong'uns, just lifting the pivot foot alone is not enough to make this illegal. A2 can lift the pivot foot and legally pass, shoot, request a timeout (or leave the pivot foot in the air until the end of the period). Of course, under these circumstances, A2 may not start a dribble since he's already lifted his pivot foot.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

... if either travel, it is a travel.

If both travel, but not simultaneously, it's the extremely rare, probably mythological (or extinct), oft discussed over a few adult beverages around a roaring campfire, possibly never actually observed, false double travel. Penalize in order of occurrence, throwin at the point of interruption.

[ilyazhito]

That is not possible. If one player travels, then the play becomes dead from that point. No violations can occur while the ball is dead.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by ilyazhito

That is not possible. If one player travels, then the play becomes dead from that point. No violations can occur while the ball is dead.

Someone missed the attempt at humor.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by ilyazhito

That is not possible. If one player travels, then the play becomes dead from that point. No violations can occur while the ball is dead.

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Someone missed the attempt at humor.

If both A-5 and A-6 lift and put back down their pivot feet simultaneously, it's a double travel violation and both A-5 and A-6 are credited with one half of one turnover in the scorebook. Throwin at the point of interruption. It's true. It's true.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

... false double travel ...

Originally Posted by BillyMac

... double travel ...

Of course, the rarest bird of all is the false multiple travel, second only to the multiple travel. Nobody ever sees this. Nobody has ever called it.

[ilyazhito]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Someone missed the attempt at humor.

#itwasn'tfunny
The point of interruption is possession by B from the nearest spot, with the shot clock reset to 30 seconds (unless we're playing with a 24-second shot clock).

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by ilyazhito

#itwasn'tfunny

The point of interruption is possession by B from the nearest spot, with the shot clock reset to 30 seconds (unless we're playing with a 24-second shot clock).

It may not have been funny but it was an obvious attempt at humor. And you need to learn how to tell the difference as you are dealing with people in this profession.

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[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by ilyazhito

#itwasn'tfunny

Your responses have been, perhaps unintentionally.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by ilyazhito

... The point of interruption ...

While the subtleties of the differences escape me, in terms of pure semantics, and rulebook language, this isn't true (although it's true in reality):

9-4-Penalty: ... awarded to the opponents for a throw-in from the designated out-of-bounds spot nearest the violation.

Of course maybe ilyazhito's "point of interruption" is an attempt at humor, in which case, never mind.