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Old Thu Dec 12, 2019, 09:22am
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Every close call? Huh? I indicated odd plays, plays that are very strange and rarely occur. I understand JRuts point too but again, I am talking about giving the authority of the Referee, perhaps after a discussion with the crew, to review a weird situation.

Close calls are common and happen all the time. Harden's play is extremely rare and using the review for such a strange play would have resulted in them getting it correct.
What is that standard going to be? Because weird or unusual will likely have to be defined. And then that might be very broad to where you review all kinds of things. And we might get some reviews that would not be intended by the stated rules.

Bottom line from my point of view, there are too many reviews in sports. I get that we want to get things right, but they are usually taking too long or unncessary.

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Old Thu Dec 12, 2019, 01:52pm
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Christ. All these holier-than-thou officials shrieking about "accountability" and haven't sniffed the level of accountability these guys are subject to. SMDH.

The crew was punished for misapplying the relevant rules. What the punishment was is not our business. In high school games rules get kicked all the time and it never gets back to the assigner because the coaches don't know the rules more often than not.

Unfortunate, but not surprising, to see low-level officials basically calling for the crew's jobs.
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Old Thu Dec 12, 2019, 02:30pm
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Christ. All these holier-than-thou officials shrieking about "accountability" and haven't sniffed the level of accountability these guys are subject to. SMDH.

The crew was punished for misapplying the relevant rules. What the punishment was is not our business. In high school games rules get kicked all the time and it never gets back to the assigner because the coaches don't know the rules more often than not.

Unfortunate, but not surprising, to see low-level officials basically calling for the crew's jobs.
I'm injured, so I'm on the shelf for a while. I attended one of the HS games I had to turn back, and the crew kicked 2 rules. On one of them, the coach was complaining, which should have triggered a conversation amongst the crew. We talked about it after the game. I told them at this level you can slide by with it, but in college (one of them just got picked up in D2) the entire crew probably would have lost a game.
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Old Thu Dec 12, 2019, 04:48pm
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I'm injured, so I'm on the shelf for a while. I attended one of the HS games I had to turn back, and the crew kicked 2 rules. On one of them, the coach was complaining, which should have triggered a conversation amongst the crew. We talked about it after the game. I told them at this level you can slide by with it, but in college (one of them just got picked up in D2) the entire crew probably would have lost a game.
And that is the part that people do not realize. And it certainly would have gotten back. I have kicked rules over the years and I did not get a call, email or any correspondence to say we missed a rule at the high school level. I have even kicked rules and no one even realized we kicked the rule until we started talking about it much later.

I am sorry, high school officials crack me up with their positions on what guys at these levels do. I have to see guys lose several games with that conference that year over misapplication of a rule or even judgment. I have known officials to get suspended for not following protocols that have nothing to do with the game between the lines.

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Old Thu Dec 12, 2019, 08:54pm
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What is that standard going to be? Because weird or unusual will likely have to be defined. And then that might be very broad to where you review all kinds of things. And we might get some reviews that would not be intended by the stated rules.

Bottom line from my point of view, there are too many reviews in sports. I get that we want to get things right, but they are usually taking too long or unncessary.

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No standard is needed. No definition is needed. As I wrote, it is at discretion of Referee. Look at NFHS Rule 2 Section 3. The play in question happened in a way that was not seen accurately by the officials. Nothing wrong with reviewing this type of play for that reason. They review fights for people coming off benches. This is mostly done because officials can not accurately see and recall those that come off the bench in many fighting situations. There is too much happening for processing. This is similar IMO and a review would have solved the whole issue.
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