New Rules 2019

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

It was previously prohibited as rolling them in any way was not considered to be worn as the manufacturer intended.

There were some states that did not care about these being rolled up. Both of my states did not seem to care and Illinois specifically told us not to worry about as long as the logos were not showing.

Peace

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

There were some states that did not care about these being rolled up. Both of my states did not seem to care and Illinois specifically told us not to worry about as long as the logos were not showing.

Previous to last year this issue never even came up here in Connecticut. It was news to us when the annual interpretations came out last year (although I had heard some rumblings on the Forum).

NFHS Basketball Rules Interpretations - 2018-19
SITUATION 9: During warm-ups, the officials notice that some players have rolled the waistband on their shorts. What actions should be taken by the officials, if any, at this time? RULING: During the warm-up period, the referee should notify the coach of the infractions and ask that they be corrected immediately. If the corrections are not made and players attempt to enter the game with rolled waistbands, those players should not be allowed to enter the game prior to correcting the issue. If player(s) in the game have rolled waistband(s), they shall be directed to leave the game and may not re-enter until the next opportunity to substitute. No penalty is involved. The game should not be held-up to allow for the correction. (3-3-5, 3-5-5)

We were encouraged to enforce it last year, many ignored the encouragement, others just paid it "lip service".

Glad it was repealed, we don't need any additional fashion issues to enforce.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

There were some states that did not care about these being rolled up. Both of my states did not seem to care and Illinois specifically told us not to worry about as long as the logos were not showing.

Peace

Some states may have not cared, but that doesn't mean it was legal. Your state chose to ignore the rule. That is certainly their right to do so.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Some states may have not cared, but that doesn't mean it was legal. Your state chose to ignore the rule. That is certainly their right to do so.

It was a state interpretation. That is their mandate when there is not a specifically addressed interpretation. These rolled jerseys were assumed to apply to the rule that was referenced.

Peace

[Freddy]

Forum member Jeff J. from AZ identified something seemingly wrong with the new reading of 4-41-7: "The tap or try for field goal starts when the player's hand(s) touches the ball." (Used to say, "The tap starts when the player's hand(s) touches the ball.")
This new wording seems to conflict with 4-41-3 which remains unchanged, "The try starts when the player begins the motion which habitually precedes the release of the ball".
Can anyone make some sense out of the change to 4-41-7? Seems like they just got carried away with the other insertions of the word "field" before goal and changed this when they shouldn't have.

[JRutledge]

Well, a tap is a try for goal. I do not think there is a conflict, just saying that on a tap (specifically) starts when the ball touches the hands. The hibitual motion basically already has the ball in the hand.

It is semantics and I get the confusion, but I think they are talking about two different kinds of events.

Peace

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Freddy

Forum member Jeff J. from AZ identified something seemingly wrong with the new reading of 4-41-7: "The tap or try for field goal starts when the player's hand(s) touches the ball." (Used to say, "The tap starts when the player's hand(s) touches the ball.")
This new wording seems to conflict with 4-41-3 which remains unchanged, "The try starts when the player begins the motion which habitually precedes the release of the ball".
Can anyone make some sense out of the change to 4-41-7? Seems like they just got carried away with the other insertions of the word "field" before goal and changed this when they shouldn't have.

You are right. It fundamentally conflicts with 4-41-3 and is incorrect.

Per the NFHS Basketball Rules Interpreters meeting (which occurred earlier today), there will be a correction forthcoming on this to delete the added words.

Your assumption regarding the initial change is also correct....editorial over-zealousness where search and replace did too well of a job.