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Old Sun Apr 07, 2019, 11:06am
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In a perfect world, the C grabs this foul.
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Old Sun Apr 07, 2019, 12:08pm
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What is the time on the clock on this play?
Where is the ball put back into play?
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Old Sun Apr 07, 2019, 12:49pm
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Not a jersey grab IMO. A jersey swipe? Yes, but not a grab. Plus, had nothing to do with the play, merely incidental. If a foul is called there, the whole world would be questioning it. IOW, the lesser of two evils prevailed, as it should have.
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Old Sun Apr 07, 2019, 12:53pm
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In a perfect world, the C grabs this foul.
I didn't think this was a foul. It was for a fraction of a second and didn't impact anything.
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Old Sun Apr 07, 2019, 01:14pm
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In a perfect world, the C grabs this foul.
Yep, that's what I've been saying. The contact before he picks up the dribble could have been called as a take-foul.

And yes, I have called fouls from the Center in pressing situations when Trail is straight-lined. I mentor a kid who is still in college and we've had several conversations about the Center official helping out with contact in the back court.

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Old Sun Apr 07, 2019, 01:47pm
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You've got 2 guys looking at that backcourt double dribble, 2 angles, dual controls because you can afford it in that instance, part of the reason we have 3 officials. No excuse that neither get that obvious call. And thank goodness the lead in the last shot stepped up, because Sirmons, the trail there (primary?) and the C here (secondary but also critical dual control) wilted in the last few seconds of that game. Had the L not stepped up on the last play, it would have been the worst last few seconds in the history of a FF game.
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Old Sun Apr 07, 2019, 02:11pm
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In a perfect world, the C grabs this foul.
The thing with still pictures is the loss of perspective. From this still picture, yes this is a foul that the C should have called. The C, nor any other official, has the ability to stop frame a scene and see exactly what happened. It is very possible that 1 or 2 "frames" either way and there is not enough contact to make a call. The thing will humans is we see a lot, but we also miss a lot due to the speed of the game vs the speed of human vision.

Then there is the entire angle issue. Obviously the C has a different view of this than the camera does, and from the C's position it may even be less contact than what is witnessed in this single frame of time.

The missed DD is a bigger issue. The foul call on the 3 attempt was absolutely, 100% the correct call.
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