Final Four: Virginia v Auburn

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by SC Official

Hardly any fanboys knew that was an illegal dribble until Steratore came on air.

Including Charles Barkley, who said he wasn’t aware of that ruling.
He was absolute class in not complaining about officiating decisions, but rather praised both Auburn and Virginia for the plays that they made and the great game.

[grunewar]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Including Charles Barkley, who said he wasn’t aware of that ruling.
He was absolute class in not complaining about officiating decisions, but rather praised both Auburn and Virginia for the plays that they made and the great game.

I too thought Charles showed some class there. Appreciative of what Auburn accomplished. Stuff happens. Good on him!

[chapmaja]

I do find it ironic and somewhat funny that Aurburn lost on free throws at the end of the game when they were lucky in a very similar situation in round 1.

[dahoopref]

Originally Posted by SC Official

Hardly any fanboys knew that was an illegal dribble until Steratore came on air.

Put yourself on the court as the T or C and imagine officiating the defender (as we are taught) expecting a take-foul to happen.

I'm not seeing a dribble off the foot with the Auburn #2 so close to the ball handler and not guessing why the ball was loose for a split second. I'm just really surprised Breeding didn't call the take-foul.

[SC Official]

Originally Posted by dahoopref

Put yourself on the court as the T or C and imagine officiating the defender (as we are taught) expecting a take-foul to happen.

I'm not seeing a dribble off the foot with the Auburn #2 so close to the ball handler and not guessing why the ball was loose for a split second. I'm just really surprised Breeding didn't call the take-foul.

Christ, Breeding was not the official that missed the illegal dribble or the take foul.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by SC Official

Christ, Breeding was not the official that missed the illegal dribble or the take foul.

The T missed the illegal dribble. The C had a great, open look at the take foul.


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[SC Official]

Originally Posted by Rich

The T missed the illegal dribble. The C had a great, open look at the take foul.

The T was Kimble. The C was Sirmons.

Breeding had nothing to do with these plays, and he had the guts to make the most important call of the game and nailed it.

How many holier-than-thou officials would have passed on that play under the justification of “letting the kids decide it”?

[SC Official]

It’s amazing to me how many holier-than-thou high school officials have the gall to act as though “I wouldn’t have missed that play or this play.”

This crew missed plays. This crew made some outstanding calls.

Yawn.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by SC Official

It’s amazing to me how many holier-than-thou high school officials have the gall to act as though “I wouldn’t have missed that play or this play.”



This crew missed plays. This crew made some outstanding calls.



Yawn.

I'm with you in case you don't realize it.

Who the f---, even in a top HS game, expects an illegal dribble?

Staring at the dribbler is usually a recipe for not getting anywhere near that level.


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[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by SC Official

It’s amazing to me how many holier-than-thou high school officials have the gall to act as though “I wouldn’t have missed that play or this play.”

This crew missed plays. This crew made some outstanding calls.

Yawn.

I’m 100% that I would have whistled the illegal dribble as Trail.
Why? Simply watch the defender. If he fouls, you have that call. If he doesn’t foul, you know that he didn’t touch the ball because you are watching him. That makes the violation an easy call. No judgment is needed for the violation. Discretion is only a factor as to the amount of contact that you allow/observe for a potential foul.

[SD Referee]

Originally Posted by SC Official

It’s amazing to me how many holier-than-thou high school officials have the gall to act as though “I wouldn’t have missed that play or this play.”

This crew missed plays. This crew made some outstanding calls.

Yawn.

Has anybody said that yet? I haven't read that.

Some missed plays/calls. Some great calls. Just like most crews out there working across the country.

D1 officials are not gods. They sometimes get treated like it. We all know some great officials. Some of you on this board are great officials. The difference between the guys on TV and the great officials you know is how much time, money at big time camps, and kissing up at big time camps do you want to spend. That's how you get to the big time. It's not because these guys are perfect and never mess up. They proved that.

They did a great job, but also missed some things. That's almost every game in the world.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by dahoopref

Put yourself on the court as the T or C and imagine officiating the defender (as we are taught) expecting a take-foul to happen.

I'm not seeing a dribble off the foot with the Auburn #2 so close to the ball handler and not guessing why the ball was loose for a split second. I'm just really surprised Breeding didn't call the take-foul.

You want the Lead to come get that in the backcourt?
Sirmons was the C.

[dahoopref]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

You want the Lead to come get that in the backcourt?
Sirmons was the C.

Sorry, I incorrectly identified Breeding for Sirmons.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by dahoopref

Put yourself on the court as the T or C and imagine officiating the defender (as we are taught) expecting a take-foul to happen.



I'm not seeing a dribble off the foot with the Auburn #2 so close to the ball handler and not guessing why the ball was loose for a split second. I'm just really surprised Breeding didn't call the take-foul.

If you are refereeing the defense, then wouldn't you know whether or not the defense touched the ball?

It's a missed call at an unfortunate time. Ideally, the contact that occurred between the ball going off his foot and the ball being retrieved would have been called as a take-foul.

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[JRutledge]

It is funny how everyone would have called the double dribble on this play, but people here and all over the place were insisting that the play in the Wofford-Kentucky play was a double dribble as well, but many did not see the defender's foot, in that case, touch the ball and stop the dribble. I even had some people claim they could not see the play even after I blew it up in my video. Just ironic what people think they see after the fact.

Peace