LSU v. Florida Video Request - Continuous Motion

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by deecee

Without a rule/case citation I'm not sure here. Are timeouts granted when they are requested or when the whistle is blown?

Yes, but with an off-ball play, the official has to go by when the whistle is blown to some extent.

For me, this is very close. I see why the call was made that way, but I could see if they decided the foul took place before the shot was attempted.

Peace

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

... with an off-ball play, the official has to go by when the whistle is blown to some extent.

Agree. If at least one official doesn't see both the off ball foul and the act of shooting, then the officials would have to utilize their ears instead of their eyes.

[deecee]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Yes, but with an off-ball play, the official has to go by when the whistle is blown to some extent.

For me, this is very close. I see why the call was made that way, but I could see if they decided the foul took place before the shot was attempted.

Peace

I don't see this as very close. By the time he starts to shoot the screener was on his rear sliding by the shooter. That implies the foul has already occurred.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by deecee

I don't see this as very close. By the time he starts to shoot the screener was on his rear sliding by the shooter. That implies the foul has already occurred.

OK. We all have an opinion.

Peace

[youngump]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Agree. If at least one official doesn't see both the off ball foul and the act of shooting, then the officials would have to utilize their ears instead of their eyes.

But couldn't the calling official come in and say, I had a really late whistle on that so if it was close, we should rule that the foul happened first?
In baseball/softball on a timing play the field umpire will yell tag to help the plate umpire no whether to count the run. If for some reason that was delayed or early, I'd expect that information to be offered, and I can think of no reason that wouldn't be the case here.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by youngump

But couldn't the calling official come in and say, I had a really late whistle on that so if it was close, we should rule that the foul happened first?
In baseball/softball on a timing play the field umpire will yell tag to help the plate umpire no whether to count the run. If for some reason that was delayed or early, I'd expect that information to be offered, and I can think of no reason that wouldn't be the case here.

Baseball/Softball are totally different than basketball. And you would determine where what came first by being in the position to see a tag and if it came before a run counted. There is no whistle or line of demarcation.

Peace

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by youngump

In baseball/softball on a timing play the field umpire will yell tag to help the plate umpire no whether to count the run.

First, it's a "time play," not a "timing play." Second, that "yelling" bit is no longer taught at higher levels -- and hasn't been for more-than-a-few-years.

[youngump]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

First, it's a "time play," not a "timing play." Second, that "yelling" bit is no longer taught at higher levels -- and hasn't been for more-than-a-few-years.

Fair enough for baseball; not so for softball.