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Old Sun Feb 17, 2019, 12:03am
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NCAA-M Administrative T?

No TO left USD Calls TO with none left. GU shoots 2 and USD gets the ball back in the same spot? This doesn't make any sense. That's almost a free TO and get the ball back. In High School it's a turnover as well as 2 shots. Did they do it right?
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No TO left USD Calls TO with none left. GU shoots 2 and USD gets the ball back in the same spot? This doesn't make any sense. That's almost a free TO and get the ball back. In High School it's a turnover as well as 2 shots. Did they do it right?
Giving the other team 2 FTs isn't free.
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No TO left USD Calls TO with none left. GU shoots 2 and USD gets the ball back in the same spot? This doesn't make any sense. That's almost a free TO and get the ball back. In High School it's a turnover as well as 2 shots. Did they do it right?
All NCAA Men's technicals are POI, except dead ball contact and flagrant. Administrative T's are usually only 1 shot, but excessive TO and 6 men on the court are 2 free throws.

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Old Sun Feb 17, 2019, 09:14am
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No TO left USD Calls TO with none left. GU shoots 2 and USD gets the ball back in the same spot? This doesn't make any sense. That's almost a free TO and get the ball back. In High School it's a turnover as well as 2 shots. Did they do it right?
How is giving the other team two FTs free?

In HS all Ts are two shots and the ball, not just excessive TO.

FWIW I believe that in NCAA-W and the NBA, the offended team does get possession for this infraction.
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Old Sun Feb 17, 2019, 09:29am
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FWIW I believe that in NCAA-W and the NBA, the offended team does get possession for this infraction.
Correct for NCAA-W; the offended team gets the ball at POI
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Old Sun Feb 17, 2019, 02:32pm
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I'm not 100% sure on this, but I believe the idea of lessening the impact of an excessive timeout came after the 1993 Chris Webber debacle in the national championship game. Two points and the ball effectively ended the game in that case, making for an anticlimactic finish to what had been an outstanding game. The feeling afterward was that the FTs are by all means warranted, but that there should be some way for the offending team to keep possession. This may have been the genesis of the trend toward using POI for most technical fouls. The college game (especially on the men's side) wanted T's to have less bite. That trend continued a few years ago when the shift to 1 shot vice 2 for Class Bs was instituted in NCAA-M.

In high school, on the other hand, things have never changed and probably never will. The NFHS rules committee wants technicals to remain an anathema, partly in order to incentivize sportsmanship (arguably a bigger priority in high school sports than college), and partly in order to keep the rules simple and consistent at the HS level.
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Old Sun Feb 17, 2019, 08:16pm
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FWIW I believe that in NCAA-W and the NBA, the offended team does get possession for this infraction.
This showed up in my Youtube recommended list this week.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Od2wgHLq69U
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