Illegal Screen?

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by ChuckS

Rule 4-19-14 "An unsporting foul is a noncontact technical foul which consists of unfair, unethical, dishonorable conduct or any behavior not in accordance with the spirit of fair play".

To call this, I assume I would have to deem that A2 deliberately impeded B2, rather than just being in the wrong place at the wrong time?

Even that wouldn't become an unsporting foul (or a T in HS). The rule is implying such acts as taunting, swearing, overly objecting to a call, etc.

[deecee]

Even if there is contact it doesn't mean the offense did anything wrong. They are entitled to their space on the floor and screening principles don't necessarily apply here.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by deecee

Even if there is contact it doesn't mean the offense did anything wrong. They are entitled to their space on the floor and screening principles don't necessarily apply here.

???

If the defender is trying to get to the ball handler, why would they not apply?

[deecee]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

???

If the defender is trying to get to the ball handler, why would they not apply?

So you are saying any moving offensive player is responsible for any contact made between said player and a defender?

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by deecee

So you are saying any moving offensive player is responsible for any contact made between said player and a defender?

Not any. But, if a defender is attempting to reach the ball handler, the offensive player's movements must be legal with respect to screening rules. If there is contact, the only direction they can be moving is directly away from that defender, otherwise, they've set an illegal screen.

[deecee]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Not any. But, if a defender is attempting to reach the ball handler, the offensive player's movements must be legal with respect to screening rules. If there is contact, the only direction they can be moving is directly away from that defender, otherwise, they've set an illegal screen.

I would disagree. This implies that an offensive player can only move "away" from any defender otherwise they are illegal. A player is entitled to their space and can move per the OP. Both players were moving parallel and "any" contact would not have been illegal for the offense.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by deecee

I would disagree. This implies that an offensive player can only move "away" from any defender otherwise they are illegal. A player is entitled to their space and can move per the OP. Both players were moving parallel and "any" contact would not have been illegal for the offense.

If the defender is trying to get to the ball handler on the other side and the offensive player, they are not moving parallel. If the offensive player is moving and the defender is trying to get to the ball handler on the other side, the offensive player has violated the screening rules that require them to be stationary when setting a screen...and must be stationary for 1-2 steps since the opponent is moving. What you've described is a textbook illegal screen.