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Old Sun Feb 10, 2019, 01:02pm
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NCAAM - Inbound steal = Primary or secondary defender?

I have seen this play and am curious as to what people think. Try to visualize.

B1 is inbounding the ball to B2 along the endline having to go the length of the court. B2 is about 15 feet from the endline. A2 is about 10 feet from B2 on the far side and B1 cannot see A2. As B1 releases the inbound pass, A2 sneakily runs towards B2, steps around B2, and intercepts the inbounds pass. B1, having seen the interception, steps inbounds, and stands, with feet on ground, in the Restricted Area (RA). A2 takes a dribble and runs over B1.

Is B1 considered to be a primary or secondary defender? What do you think? Is there an NCAAM rule/case play for this situation?
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Old Sun Feb 10, 2019, 01:16pm
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primary/secondary only have implications in the RA for block/charge only. Also any outnumbered fast break (offense outnumbers defense) all defenders are secondary. finally if a primary defender was never established then the first player to apply defense would be considered primary, excluding the above exception for a fast break.

Hopefully someone provides a citation or two to prove me wrong or right. I'm about 50/50 on the last sentence.
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Old Sun Feb 10, 2019, 02:32pm
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Yes, I am aware of all the RA stuff. I am mostly looking for a citation for the OP.
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Old Sun Feb 10, 2019, 03:17pm
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primary/secondary only have implications in the RA for block/charge only. Also any outnumbered fast break (offense outnumbers defense) all defenders are secondary. finally if a primary defender was never established then the first player to apply defense would be considered primary, excluding the above exception for a fast break.

Hopefully someone provides a citation or two to prove me wrong or right. I'm about 50/50 on the last sentence.
Outnumbered fast-break is either offense greater than defense or defense greater than offense.

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Old Mon Feb 11, 2019, 12:16am
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This is an outnumbered fast break. Both B1 and B2 are secondary defenders. Neither can establish LGP in the RA.
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Old Mon Feb 11, 2019, 07:50am
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This is an outnumbered fast break. Both B1 and B2 are secondary defenders. Neither can establish LGP in the RA.
I don't know how you came to this conclusion from the AP? Can't tell if its outnumbered and/or the defender was in the RA.
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Old Mon Feb 11, 2019, 01:14pm
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I don't know how you came to this conclusion from the AP? Can't tell if its outnumbered and/or the defender was in the RA.
He only mentions 3 players, so I am assuming they are the only three players involved. Unless definitions have changed, 3 is an odd number. Also, since he is asking about primary/secondary defenders, the logical inference is that the play involves the RA, otherwise, those terms are irrelevant.
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