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Freddy Thu Feb 07, 2019 12:53am

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Originally Posted by AremRed (Post 1029924)
That's the best sell of a call I've ever seen. In any sport. At any level. That guy is God-tier.

That wasn't you, was it? Nawwwwwww.

deecee Thu Feb 07, 2019 07:05am

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Originally Posted by Freddy (Post 1029900)
The approved signal I teach here:
Block - Good Call, Good Signal, Good Report

Lol and kinda embarrassing. To call so far out of one's primary. To be 100% wrong. To have a partner who is right there about to make the right call. Then to look goofy as all heck making said wrong call. If the actual call wasn't so bad and wrong this would have been funnier.

Paintguru Thu Feb 07, 2019 08:05am

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Originally Posted by Rich (Post 1029915)
I assime you're not talking about going ballside here - if you are, I would be concerned with a crew whose lead never went ballside.


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Nah, they just both sat on one side, even as the ball came up the floor and was swung to the far side, away from them. Never switched once in the 1.5 quarters I watched. Granted, it was a middle school game, but still...

#olderthanilook Thu Feb 07, 2019 09:25am

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Originally Posted by Freddy (Post 1029900)
The approved signal I teach here:
Block - Good Call, Good Signal, Good Report

oh...my....goodness

deecee Thu Feb 07, 2019 09:50am

Although all this brings back a fond memory of a "veteran" official and what he said to me once. I was probably about 3 years in and was working a JV game. Vet walks in and starts talking to my partner and I and says "I can tell you guys did not communicate before the game."

I said, "What makes you say that." I knew we emailed but didn't talk. He responds with, "I carry 2 color shoe laces so I always match my partner, and your shoe laces don't match."

I gave him, what I imagine to be, the stupidest look in my life. I stood up and walked out while he was mid-sentence of some other nonsense.

That was the moment I realized that I cannot take everything any official tells me seriously, and I need to weigh what, and whom, is mentoring/coaching me.

The little mentoring I ever did, I always prefaced it with, pick what you want from what I tell you, but don't pick everything. It worked, kinda, for me, and I guarantee it all won't work for you. If it does, you're in bigger trouble then getting mentoring from me.

BillyMac Thu Feb 07, 2019 11:20am

Fisting ...
 
I've been fisting preliminary block signals my entire career. Hard to change. By the time I get to the reporting area I will often report with the correct hands on hips signal. At least I'm half right. Also half wrong.

constable Fri Feb 08, 2019 03:44am

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Originally Posted by Rich (Post 1029866)
One bang of the hips at the spot. One gentle one at the table.

Hands on hips is a terrible mechanic that should have been modified years ago.


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+this

Freddy Sun Feb 10, 2019 02:52pm

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Originally Posted by constable (Post 1029997)
+this

My, How Hideous a Block Signal! :rolleyes:

Rich Sun Feb 10, 2019 03:42pm

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Originally Posted by Freddy (Post 1030040)



Weak mechanic for a weak foul?


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deecee Sun Feb 10, 2019 04:13pm

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Originally Posted by Rich (Post 1030043)
Weak mechanic for a weak foul?


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Not even sure that's a block. Illegal hands or push.

AremRed Sun Feb 10, 2019 04:53pm

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Originally Posted by Rich (Post 1030043)
Weak mechanic for a weak foul?

Nah looks like a foul to me. Body bump affects dribbler SQBR. Prob not a foul in a higher level game with better players.

Camron Rust Sun Feb 10, 2019 06:33pm

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Originally Posted by deecee (Post 1030044)
Not even sure that's a block. Illegal hands or push.

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Originally Posted by AremRed (Post 1030045)
Nah looks like a foul to me. Body bump affects dribbler SQBR. Prob not a foul in a higher level game with better players.

I agree this is often a foul since the dribbler was redirected as a result of the contact. However, it is one that some will pass on.

Block, push, doesn't really matter. It could be either. A lot of foul definitions overlap.

Raymond Sun Feb 10, 2019 06:45pm

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Originally Posted by AremRed (Post 1030045)
Nah looks like a foul to me. Body bump affects dribbler SQBR. Prob not a foul in a higher level game with better players.

It's a foul for me at all my levels.

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Rich Sun Feb 10, 2019 06:47pm

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Originally Posted by Raymond (Post 1030047)
It's a foul for me at all my levels.

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I wasn't saying it isn't a foul. Guess it sounds that way.

Doesn't even deserve a prelim. Whistle, turn and report.


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JRutledge Sun Feb 10, 2019 07:34pm

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Originally Posted by Raymond (Post 1030047)
It's a foul for me at all my levels.

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Foul to me as well. But I would not have used that signal.

Peace


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