Requesting timeout on layup situation???

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Raymond

And if the shot is missed you are going to the AP arrow, correct?

Originally Posted by BillyMac

I believe so.

Nice followup question Raymond.

Are you a teacher?

Based on your application in the play where the ball goes into the basket, you would therefore have to use the AP arrow if the ball does not go in the basket.

I'm just imagining the fun you would have in a game where 8 seconds is remaining, Team A is losing by 2 points, AP arrow to Team B, time-out request, shot released, whistle blows, A1's "try" is an airball and is caught in the paint by A2.

You would then be sending the teams to their bench areas for Team A's time-out followed by giving the ball to Team B after the time-out due to the AP arrow.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Raymond

I'm just imagining the fun you would have in a game where 8 seconds is remaining, Team A is losing by 2 points, AP arrow to Team B, time-out request, shot released, whistle blows, A1's "try" is an airball and is caught in the paint by A2. You would then be sending the teams to their bench areas for Team A's time-out followed by giving the ball to Team B after the time-out due to the AP arrow.

I knew that you were eventually going to go there, but when my assigner calls me the next morning, the rulebook is my friend. I hope that I decide to call him before he calls me.

Also, I'm not against bending some rules for the purpose of good game management. Especially when I can get together with my partner to discuss what "really happened" (wink ,wink).

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

I knew that you were eventually going to go there, but when my assigner calls me the next morning, the rulebook is my friend. I hope that I decide to call him before he calls me.
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And you would be technically correct. I know that all the supervisors for whom I work would expect the crew to rule the time-out occurred before the shot was released.

My most accomplished supervisor is my HS assignor. His favorite phrase is "I want officials who make good decisions".

Notice, I never tell other officials how to handle situations. I always say either what I would do (and why) or what my supervisors expect.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Raymond

I never tell other officials how to handle situations. I always say either what I would do (and why) or what my supervisors expect.

Agree. I do the same thing, here on the Forum, and in real life. When in Rome ...

I also realize that there is one way to answer written test questions, and maybe another way to handle a situation on the court.

I've been around the block a few times and have been to several rodeos, as I guess Raymond has, maybe even few more times around the block, and maybe even a few more rodeos for Raymond.

[billyu2]

Originally Posted by Raymond

And you would be technically correct. I know that all the supervisors for whom I work would expect the crew to rule the time-out occurred before the shot was released.

My most accomplished supervisor is my HS assignor. His favorite phrase is "I want officials who make good decisions".

Notice, I never tell other officials how to handle situations. I always say either what I would do (and why) or what my supervisors expect.

And "good decisions" quite often means agreement with the supervisor's opinion. Even if that current opinion may be lacking somewhat in rules support. If that supervisor decides next year he wants officials to verify the TO request and then locate the ball to ensure PC before sounding the whistle to grant the TO, I suspect a lot of his officials are going to say, "Yep, that's the right way to do it by golly."