Jump Ball - Start the game (Video)

[crosscountry55]

Originally Posted by BigCat

Jumpers are supposed to stay within their half of center circle til jump is over.

Interesting that this is implied in the 6-3 "Note," but not specifically among the jumper's restrictions in 6-3-7.

Hmm. Have we opened a Pandora's Box just like we did with the TI/TC debate?

In general, though this was messy, I ultimately saw nothing I would whistle even in slow motion review. I thought when I first started watching the video I might be looking for a backcourt violation, but indeed I never saw definite player control until the dust had finally settled. So....play on.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by crosscountry55

Interesting that this is implied in the 6-3 "Note," but not specifically among the jumper's restrictions in 6-3-7.

ART. 1 For any jump ball, each jumper shall have both feet within that
half of the center restraining circle which is farther from his/her basket.

ART. 7 Neither jumper shall:
a. Touch the tossed ball before it reaches its highest point.
b. Leave the center restraining circle until the ball has been touched.
c. Catch the ball before the jump ball ends.
d. Touch the ball more than twice.

ART. 8 The jump ball and the restrictions in 6-3-7 end when the
touched ball contacts one of the eight nonjumpers, an official, the floor, a
basket or backboard.

NOTE: During a jump ball, a jumper is not required to face his/her own
basket, provided he/she is in the proper half of the center restraining circle.

Article 8 tells us when the restrictions end for Article 7 (jumpers shall not: touch the tossed ball before it reaches its highest point, leave the center restraining circle until the ball has been touched, catch the ball before the jump ball ends, touch the ball more than twice) but the restriction for where the jumpers must have their feet (within that half of the center restraining circle which is farther from his/her basket) is in Article 1 (and the Note), and there is no indication of when the Article 1 (and the Note) restriction ends.

Interesting. Very interesting.

I say again:

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Start games by giving the ball to the visitors at the division line opposite the table and avoid all this nineteenth century nonsense.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

[I]ART. 1 For any jump ball, each jumper shall have both feet within that half of the center restraining circle which is farther from his/her basket.

Article 8 tells us when the restrictions end for Article 7....but the restriction for where the jumpers must have their feet (within that half of the center restraining circle which is farther from his/her basket) is in Article 1 (and the Note), and there is no indication of when the Article 1 (and the Note) restriction ends.

I believe Article 1 is meant to apply to where the jumpers start and must be until it is tossed and nothing more.

There is nothing to be called on this play. I looked at the possibility of a backcourt violation but red never gained PC in the frontcourt before it was deflected into thier BC where a red player picked up the ball.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

I believe Article 1 is meant to apply to where the jumpers start and must be until it is tossed and nothing more.

Sounds like a plan, but why wouldn't the NFHS stipulate that? Wait ... I'm being told ... Oh, that NFHS? Never mind.

[JRutledge]

I think this was a very well officiated play. Nothing IMO happened here. It was just interesting to watch the ball go back and forth over the division line and no one violated or called for a violation. The Jumpers did nothing wrong. The ball was touched by both of them it appears and they can leave the area. The NC Jumper did appear to feel he was not going to be able to touch the ball, but he could have. Then the ball goes back and forth being touched by Harvard, but no control appeared to have taken place until the player on the floor grabs the ball with both hands. The only issue might be if the player laying on the division line is touching the ball when it is controlled by his teammate. But the Referee or tossing official was standing right there to know for sure. I thought it was a very well done job and I have seen similar plays called violations in college games. At least the officials were on top of this or just did not see anything that stood out.

Peace