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Thu Dec 20, 2018, 05:51pm
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Fake To The Face ...
A1 receives a pass and is guarded closely by B1.
A1 fakes a pass into B1's face, with the ball stopping inches away from B1's nose. B1 flinches and A1 drives by B1 for a layup. No contact. Anything? One officiates for almost four decades, been to lots, and lots, of rodeos, been around the block many, many times, and thinks that one has seen everything, and then something like this happens.
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Thu Dec 20, 2018, 11:26pm
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Going by the literal words that you used, this seems easy.
"A1 fakes a pass into B1's face" = unsporting. One could use the case play of a throw-in where inbounder does same to defender. Is it ever not unsporting to fake anything at someone's face?
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Thu Dec 20, 2018, 11:39pm
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Which case play is that? There is only holding/waving hands in front of someone's face and bouncing a ball off a defender's face that is mentioned in the case book.
Now if it's a dead ball period and someone does this, I could consider that as unsporting. Last edited by SNIPERBBB; Fri Dec 21, 2018 at 08:39am.
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Fri Dec 21, 2018, 08:03am
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Got any stock market predictions? For the record, next dead ball I told the player to "cut that out" (with apologies to Jack Benny), not knowing if I had any rule basis, I just bluffed my way through it. Speak with confidence and authority to a teenager and they'll believe you (some of the time, not all of the time).
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Fri Dec 21, 2018, 08:58am
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Fri Dec 21, 2018, 11:18am
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Fri Dec 21, 2018, 11:55am
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In order to call this unsporting it would matter to me if this pass fake was done in a threatening manner or if it was a pass fake in the normal course of the game. Absent any contact, I have nothing.
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Fri Dec 21, 2018, 01:11pm
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As Clear As The Nose On His Face ...
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Sat Dec 22, 2018, 08:42am
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Fri Dec 28, 2018, 02:36pm
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It Happened Again ...
This happened today:
A1 is handed the ball for a throwin. B1 is guarding A1 and is right up to the boundary plane, not on it, not over it. A1 fakes a pass into B1's face, with the ball stopping inches away from B1's nose. B1 flinches and A1 makes as successful inbounds pass to A2. No contact. Anything? During the next dead ball clock stopped situation I spoke the player telling her it was unsporting and not to do it again. Is there rule backing for an unsporting technical foul, and if so, should we charge such?
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Fri Dec 28, 2018, 08:45pm
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Threatening harm to another player is certainly unsporting. Faking a ball to the face can certainly be interpreted as threatening harm. There is no other purpose for it.
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Sat Dec 29, 2018, 01:12am
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Funny this thread is going on right now, because I had this variation last night in BV game:
A1 pressured in backcourt by B1. A1, holding ball with both hands, takes it and bangs B1 on top of the head with it. Trail official administering 10-second count -- and probably too on top of the action to have a great look -- gives a quizzical furrowed-brow expression like, "Did I really just see that?!" I'm the C and come in with an unsporting T when I realize he isn't certain what occurred. Everybody good with that? I am, but since this thread resurfaced today, might as well poll the peanut gallery.
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