Block or PC?

[Pantherdreams]

I'm not going to watch the rest of the game to get context but I am assuming based on the reaction to the forearm that things have been building in this game. Using my FIBA vernacular:

Step 1 - Block on defender
Step 2 - Unsportsmanlike on offensive player for shove.
Step 3 - Double Tech's on the original offenders
Step 4 - Double Tech's on on the smash brothers squaring off up stage.

[ballgame99]

Block 100%.

Then 2 sets of double Ts. And what to make of the kid waiving his arms inciting the crowd? Not sure if that is something to penalize, but I don't like it.

Edit to add: They ejected the kid that got fouled in the first place!? I assume they ejected the kid that did the fouling too? How 10 Blue gets out of that without a tech is interesting.

[thumpferee]

Originally Posted by ballgame99

Block 100%.

Then 2 sets of double Ts. And what to make of the kid waiving his arms inciting the crowd? Not sure if that is something to penalize, but I don't like it.

Edit to add: They ejected the kid that got fouled in the first place!? I assume they ejected the kid that did the fouling too? How 10 Blue gets out of that without a tech is interesting.

Correct! The two players involved in the original play were assessed flagrant T's.
I would have been a lil more lenient.

I had someone tell me they would shoot the FT's for bothe since they weren't simultaneous techs. Is there a ruling that would justify that?

Also, I watched the game and there was no other situations that warranted the reactions shown. Actually it was kinda boring and unemotional. Until then.

[deecee]

Originally Posted by thumpferee

Correct! The two players involved in the original play were assessed flagrant T's.
I would have been a lil more lenient.

I had someone tell me they would shoot the FT's for bothe since they weren't simultaneous techs. Is there a ruling that would justify that?

Also, I watched the game and there was no other situations that warranted the reactions shown. Actually it was kinda boring and unemotional. Until then.

If you want to show how "clever" you can be with the rules then sure...Otherwise for most of us offset and move on.

[#olderthanilook]

A lot going on here. Here's what I have with the luxury of watching it a half dozen times on replay:

Blue 32 - blocking foul (first contact, before W21's extended arm)
Blue 32 - flagrant tech for fighting
White 21 - flagrant tech for fighting
White 24 - technical foul - unsporting (clapping at opponent, inciting the crowd)
Blue 10 - flagrant technical - fighting
White 23 - unsure. I can't see his mouth moving, his arms stay straight down and his side and his body language is hard to interpret

From there...wow....

Shoot FTs if White is in team bonus
Flagrant T's B32/W21 offset - no FTs
Blue - shoot FTs for W24 unsporting tech foul
White - shoot FTs for B10 flagrant tech foul
White ball at mid court after FTs
Both coaches retain coaching box privileges since no bench personnel are involved in the festivities???

Am I close?

[deecee]

I wouldn’t T the kid for pumping up the crowd from what I saw and I, personally, don’t consider the shoves fighting.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by deecee

I wouldn’t T the kid for pumping up the crowd from what I saw and I, personally, don’t consider the shoves fighting.

I see a bunch of T's but no "fighting". Without hearing white 23, I don't have anything on him. All we can tell for sure is he got shoved and that isn't enough to say he was guilty of anything.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by deecee

If you want to show how "clever" you can be with the rules then sure...Otherwise for most of us offset and move on.

Even if you were clever with the rules, you still shouldn't shoot since the rules say "approximately". That is approximate to anyone that is reasonable.

[deecee]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Even if you were clever with the rules, you still shouldn't shoot since the rules say "approximately". That is approximate to anyone that is reasonable.

That's why I put clever in quotes (should have used blue font).

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by deecee

That's why I put clever in quotes (should have used blue font).

I understood that. It was clear. But I have heard some really argue for shooting because they were not at at the same instant....and I've heard it more than once. So, I figured it was a good idea to make sure no one mistook your sarcasm for a suggestion.