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Old Tue Dec 18, 2018, 08:47am
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Block or PC?


Or
https://app.krossover.com/g/1153z
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NM. I can't get video to upload.
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Old Tue Dec 18, 2018, 08:59am
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I can't help but laugh at your post that says, "NM, I can't get the video to upload," followed by your tagline of, "A picture is worth a thousand words." Truer words never spoken!
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Old Tue Dec 18, 2018, 09:10am
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I can't help but laugh at your post that says, "NM, I can't get the video to upload," followed by your tagline of, "A picture is worth a thousand words." Truer words never spoken!
Lol. Look again
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Old Tue Dec 18, 2018, 09:17am
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Block then 2 sets of double T's

1 on the 2 involved in the original call
1 on the tall and short guy

I know they went PC probably because the armbar extended but that's a normal reaction when a defender just runs into you like that.
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Old Tue Dec 18, 2018, 09:21am
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Block then 2 sets of double T's

1 on the 2 involved in the original call
1 on the tall and short guy

I know they went PC probably because the armbar extended but that's a normal reaction when a defender just runs into you like that.
Block, but I only have two T's -- the original blue player, then the white player who rushes in to "help" his teammate
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Old Tue Dec 18, 2018, 09:26am
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Block, but I only have two T's -- the original blue player, then the white player who rushes in to "help" his teammate
Bob you don't think the square up of tall and short in that type of environment was T worthy? Also a guess, but they weren't talking about the weather.
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Old Tue Dec 18, 2018, 09:37am
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Bob you don't think the square up of tall and short in that type of environment was T worthy? Also a guess, but they weren't talking about the weather.

I think it is most definitely T worthy. I can't really think of a good reason why it wouldn't be.
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Old Tue Dec 18, 2018, 10:09am
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I'm not going to watch the rest of the game to get context but I am assuming based on the reaction to the forearm that things have been building in this game. Using my FIBA vernacular:

Step 1 - Block on defender
Step 2 - Unsportsmanlike on offensive player for shove.
Step 3 - Double Tech's on the original offenders
Step 4 - Double Tech's on on the smash brothers squaring off up stage.
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Old Tue Dec 18, 2018, 10:17am
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Bob you don't think the square up of tall and short in that type of environment was T worthy? Also a guess, but they weren't talking about the weather.
I think white "tall" gets a T here. I'm not sure blue "short" gets another for any physical actions / reactions.

Of course, if words are exchanged, that might lead to a T.
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Old Tue Dec 18, 2018, 10:28am
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Block 100%.

Then 2 sets of double Ts. And what to make of the kid waiving his arms inciting the crowd? Not sure if that is something to penalize, but I don't like it.

Edit to add: They ejected the kid that got fouled in the first place!? I assume they ejected the kid that did the fouling too? How 10 Blue gets out of that without a tech is interesting.

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Old Tue Dec 18, 2018, 11:04am
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Block 100%.

Then 2 sets of double Ts. And what to make of the kid waiving his arms inciting the crowd? Not sure if that is something to penalize, but I don't like it.

Edit to add: They ejected the kid that got fouled in the first place!? I assume they ejected the kid that did the fouling too? How 10 Blue gets out of that without a tech is interesting.
Correct! The two players involved in the original play were assessed flagrant T's.
I would have been a lil more lenient.

I had someone tell me they would shoot the FT's for bothe since they weren't simultaneous techs. Is there a ruling that would justify that?

Also, I watched the game and there was no other situations that warranted the reactions shown. Actually it was kinda boring and unemotional. Until then.
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Old Tue Dec 18, 2018, 11:32am
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Correct! The two players involved in the original play were assessed flagrant T's.
I would have been a lil more lenient.

I had someone tell me they would shoot the FT's for bothe since they weren't simultaneous techs. Is there a ruling that would justify that?

Also, I watched the game and there was no other situations that warranted the reactions shown. Actually it was kinda boring and unemotional. Until then.
If you want to show how "clever" you can be with the rules then sure...Otherwise for most of us offset and move on.
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A lot going on here. Here's what I have with the luxury of watching it a half dozen times on replay:

Blue 32 - blocking foul (first contact, before W21's extended arm)
Blue 32 - flagrant tech for fighting
White 21 - flagrant tech for fighting
White 24 - technical foul - unsporting (clapping at opponent, inciting the crowd)
Blue 10 - flagrant technical - fighting
White 23 - unsure. I can't see his mouth moving, his arms stay straight down and his side and his body language is hard to interpret

From there...wow....

Shoot FTs if White is in team bonus
Flagrant T's B32/W21 offset - no FTs
Blue - shoot FTs for W24 unsporting tech foul
White - shoot FTs for B10 flagrant tech foul
White ball at mid court after FTs
Both coaches retain coaching box privileges since no bench personnel are involved in the festivities???

Am I close?
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Old Tue Dec 18, 2018, 03:09pm
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I wouldn’t T the kid for pumping up the crowd from what I saw and I, personally, don’t consider the shoves fighting.
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If you want to show how "clever" you can be with the rules then sure...Otherwise for most of us offset and move on.
Even if you were clever with the rules, you still shouldn't shoot since the rules say "approximately". That is approximate to anyone that is reasonable.
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