Small circle within center circle

[njbell89]

Is anyone familiar with why some basketball courts have a smaller circle (~2ft in diameter) within the center restraining circle? Is there a non-NFHS reason, perhaps?

[LRZ]

My memory may be faulty (and I don't have access to MTD's attic to look through his archives), but I seem to recall, years ago, the jumpers had to have one foot in the smaller circle.

[crosscountry55]

Originally Posted by LRZ

My memory may be faulty (and I don't have access to MTD's attic to look through his archives), but I seem to recall, years ago, the jumpers had to have one foot in the smaller circle.

I think that’s it. If you see this feature, it is a relic of a bygone era.


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[Freddy]

Other relics of a bygone era?
How 'bout: 28' marks, segmented semi-circle within the lanes completing the antiquated jump circles, other?









me

[crosscountry55]

Originally Posted by Freddy

Other relics of a bygone era?

How 'bout: 28' marks, segmented semi-circle within the lanes completing the antiquated jump circles, other?

This is where MTD and BillyMac enter the conversation and talk about the old narrow lane.



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[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Freddy

Other relics of a bygone era?
How 'bout: 28' marks, segmented semi-circle within the lanes completing the antiquated jump circles, other?



me

Well, 28' marks are relevant in regards to bench area and coaching box.

[Freddy]

Originally Posted by Raymond

Well, 28' marks are relevant in regards to bench area and coaching box.

Perhaps, as a possible point of reference for any schools who don't lay down the obligatory line in the OOB area to designate the inward boundary of the coaching box.
And that's for courts 84' or longer. Those shorter can't use that as a point of reference, though I bet there's a lot of misinformed AD's thinking so.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Freddy

Perhaps, as a possible point of reference for any schools who don't lay down the obligatory line in the OOB area to designate the inward boundary of the coaching box.
And that's for courts 84' or longer. Those shorter can't use that as a point of reference, though I bet there's a lot of misinformed AD's thinking so.

I avoid schools that don't have at least 84' of court.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by crosscountry55

This is where MTD and BillyMac enter the conversation ...

The twenty-eight foot hashmark separated the midcourt from the forecourt. Ball handlers would get a new five second closely guarded dribbling count if they passed the hashmark going forward, thus allowing sixteen seconds of legal closely guarded control, four seconds holding in midcourt, four seconds dribbling in the midcourt, dribble past the hashmark and get a new four seconds dribbling, and then finish off with four seconds of holding.

My arm's getting tired just thinking about it.

The twenty-eight foot hashmark also had something to do with lack of action, but that's another story for another time.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Freddy

... segmented semi-circle within the lanes completing the antiquated jump circles.

Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.'s favorite lines on the court.

Three jump ball circles, center, and at each end of the court. And lots of jump balls back then. To start each quarter, and each overtime period. Plus, anytime we go to the alternating possession arrow today, we had a jump ball back then. One could have literally dozens of jump balls in a girls subvarsity game.

Yeah, it was like heaven for Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. back then.

If he had his way the alternating possession arrow would be thrown in the trash and burned to a crisp.

[so cal lurker]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

One could have literally dozens of jump balls in a girls subvarsity game.
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In my youth, I reffed middle-school/grammar school games (without training). . . my arm could be tired from all those jump balls in the girls' games . . .

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by so cal lurker

...my arm could be tired from all those jump balls in the girls' games ...

And it's always difficult figuring out how high subvarsity girls can jump in order to toss the ball to an appropriate height.

[LRZ]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

The twenty-eight foot hashmark also had something to do with lack of action, but that's another story for another time.

Been there, done that: https://forum.officiating.com/basket...endations.html, posts #16 and #21.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by LRZ

Been there, done that: https://forum.officiating.com/basket...endations.html, posts #16 and #21.

Originally Posted by LRZ

There was a time when courts had hashmarks along each side line. If a team held the ball beyond them and made no attempt to penetrate, and the defense sat back, we would, at some point, step in and tell the defense to come out and "play.".

Whichever team was behind, offense or defense, was responsible to "Play ball". Tied game, defense was responsible to "Play ball".

If instructed to "Play ball" the offense had to move the ball past the hashmarks. If the defense was responsible they had to initiate a five second closely guarded count.

Not sure, but one "Play ball" warning per team per quarter, technical foul after the warning.

This was the Pleistocene Epoch version of the shot clock.

[LRZ]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Whichever team was behind, offense or defense, was responsible to "Play ball". Tied game, defense was responsible to "Play ball".

That does jog my memory and sounds right. I am older than you (and MTD), so my memory lapses must be excused.