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Old Thu Nov 08, 2018, 11:23am
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The more I hear about drama that happens in associations that have assigning authority, the more I wish we had the college-style arrangement that your state has.
They're not all like that. Probably not even most.

And what do you mean like college-style? Here, it is one assignor for 200-300+ miles in all directions that has all of the D3 and NAIA schools and one that has a few of the JC's. College, here, is far more restricted than HS. A person can find 20-30 (or more) different HS associations in the area of 2 college assignors.
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Old Thu Nov 08, 2018, 11:29am
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They're not all like that. Probably not even most.

And what do you mean like college-style? Here, it is one assignor for 200-300+ miles in all directions that has all of the D3 and NAIA schools and one that has a few of the JC's. College, here, is far more restricted than HS. A person can find 20-30 (or more) different HS associations in the area of 2 college assignors.
Conferences hire their own assigner. That is what I mean by college-style. Thought that was pretty obvious in context.

Problem is in my state, schools don’t form conferences.
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Old Thu Nov 08, 2018, 06:16pm
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Conferences hire their own assigner. That is what I mean by college-style. Thought that was pretty obvious in context.
You're making some assumptions. Your context implied that being college gave the officials a choice of who to work for. Just being college doesn't make that true when the conferences hire the same assignor.
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Old Thu Nov 08, 2018, 06:43pm
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You're making some assumptions. Your context implied that being college gave the officials a choice of who to work for. Just being college doesn't make that true when the conferences hire the same assignor.
Never did I make any assumptions. My point was that it can prevent the perceived or actual conflicts of interest.
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Old Thu Nov 08, 2018, 09:34pm
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Never did I make any assumptions. My point was that it can prevent the perceived or actual conflicts of interest.
I guess I just don't get your point. Can you elaborate?
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Old Fri Nov 09, 2018, 01:25am
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Never did I make any assumptions. My point was that it can prevent the perceived or actual conflicts of interest.
What Camron is saying is that the problem persists at the college level too because several conferences will use the same assignor. For example, if the MWC, PAC-12, WCC, and Big12 all use the same assignor and his pool of officials, then you are in the same situation as a single HS association.
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Old Fri Nov 09, 2018, 08:14am
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I guess I just don't get your point. Can you elaborate?
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What Camron is saying is that the problem persists at the college level too because several conferences will use the same assignor. For example, if the MWC, PAC-12, WCC, and Big12 all use the same assignor and his pool of officials, then you are in the same situation as a single HS association.
Makes sense. Poor wording choice by me.
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Old Fri Nov 09, 2018, 08:26am
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What Camron is saying is that the problem persists at the college level too because several conferences will use the same assignor. For example, if the MWC, PAC-12, WCC, and Big12 all use the same assignor and his pool of officials, then you are in the same situation as a single HS association.
On this side of the country, an assignor may have multiple conferences, but it doesn't mean an official will work or sign a contract for all those conferences. Regardless of how many conferences a supervisor has, most college officials work for multiple supervisors.
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Old Fri Nov 09, 2018, 09:33am
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On this side of the country, an assignor may have multiple conferences, but it doesn't mean an official will work or sign a contract for all those conferences. Regardless of how many conferences a supervisor has, most college officials work for multiple supervisors.
One of my college assignors is the assignor of multiple high school conferences. I work for him both in high school and college levels. I work for many other high school and college supervisors too.

I got SC's point totally. There seems to always be some drama that goes around with an association, either by someone in a leadership role either doing something that might be unfair to the group or that sounds like something that violates the independent contractor position. I am so glad I do not live in that situation exclusively (at least in Illinois). If I have issues or the conference has issues with their assignor, they hire someone else or we can choose as officials to work for someone else. I do not work for every assignor in our area for many reasons. It is very much like a college situation where I can prioritize certain leagues over other leagues and work what we want on many levels.

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