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Terrapins Fan · #1 (**permalink**) Sat Nov 03, 2018, 02:30pm

Just looking for other people's thoughts.

How would you feel Rich if a former member left and became a competitor because he lost an election?

Rich · #2 (**permalink**) Sat Nov 03, 2018, 02:31pm

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Just looking for other people's thoughts.

How would you feel Rich if a former member left and became a competitor because he lost an election?

Has nothing to do with feelings. Need to show those schools you provide a better product and compete.

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Terrapins Fan · #3 (**permalink**) Sat Nov 03, 2018, 03:31pm

I agree. But feelings do come into play. I go back to officiating shoild be a brotherhood. We should support one another, not split because we lost an election.

BillyMac · #4 (**permalink**) Sat Nov 03, 2018, 03:46pm

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But feelings do come into play.

I agree with Rich. Feelings and emotions should not be completely ignored, but they should not come into play regarding moving on from this ugly situation.

Show schools you provide a better product and compete. Recruit more schools. Offer to work more scrimmages for a lower fee (if any). Recruit more officials. Improve your training program. Improve your evaluation system. Keeps business to a minimum and continuing education to a maximum when you have meetings.

Turn lemons into ... Never mind. I don't think that you're in the mood for clichés.

bob jenkins · #5 (**permalink**) Sat Nov 03, 2018, 04:13pm

THis is one of the problems when "associations" are also "assigners" and there's some sort of exclusive relationship with the officials.

Rich · #6 (**permalink**) Sat Nov 03, 2018, 04:15pm

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THis is one of the problems when "associations" are also "assigners" and there's some sort of exclusive relationship with the officials.

I've always found this to be a huge conflict of interest that always ends up being restraint of trade in some way.

Having one person or group dictate whether I can work and what I work is a terrible arrangement, IMO.

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JRutledge · #7 (**permalink**) Sun Nov 04, 2018, 10:09am

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THis is one of the problems when "associations" are also "assigners" and there's some sort of exclusive relationship with the officials.

Totally agree. I get why this happens or people think this is the a good thing on the surface, but when it is about the person that assigns in your group and that relationship with the group is strained, then this is what can and will happen.

Peace

Terrapins Fan · #8 (**permalink**) Sun Nov 04, 2018, 07:43pm

Bad Zebra, Thanks, good advice. Same with everyone who replied. His stated goal is to destroy our group. He took 5 of the best officials with him. 2 are college level officials.

But we have a very good core. It just bothers me that someone can do this. I would never have thought about it in a million years.

SC Official · #9 (**permalink**) Thu Nov 08, 2018, 09:00am

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Totally agree. I get why this happens or people think this is the a good thing on the surface, but when it is about the person that assigns in your group and that relationship with the group is strained, then this is what can and will happen.

Peace

The more I hear about drama that happens in associations that have assigning authority, the more I wish we had the college-style arrangement that your state has.

genetoy71 · #10 (**permalink**) Wed Nov 07, 2018, 12:45pm

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...Offer to work more scrimmages for a lower fee (if any)...

If I am a member of an association and association leadership does this, how does this help me?

BillyMac · #11 (**permalink**) Wed Nov 07, 2018, 01:29pm

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Show schools you provide a better product and compete. Recruit more schools. Offer to work more scrimmages for a lower fee (if any). Recruit more officials. Improve your training program. Improve your evaluation system. Keeps business to a minimum and continuing education to a maximum when you have meetings.

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If I a member of an association and association leadership does this, how does this help me?

By keeping school schedules, and thus more game assignments for you, especially if you're not a member of another assigning board.

You're right, it's not a great idea, but in the "dog eat dog world" of two competing assigning boards in the same locality, anything goes when it comes to making one assigning board look more attractive to coaches/athletic directors/principals/league directors than the other assigning board.

And maybe, depending on the state guidelines and contracted fees, it's easier to "tinker" with scrimmage fees than it is to "tinker" with actual game fees.

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... school gave the other board all their schedule because he offered to work 2 person instead of 3 person ...

In the specific case of this thread, the "Brand X" assigning board already came up with a cost saving measure of lower total game fees by agreeing to go with two person crews.

Some schools may find this cost saving idea of "quantity over quality" financially attractive and thus, a real bargain.

Others may not.