Setting Screen with Back

[champion]

I have run into this a couple of times in rec leagues the last couple of months. ...A2 sets a screen on B1 with his back to A2. A2 is stationary and does not "hip" the defender. I could not find anything in the rule book that reads illegal. In last nights Cavs/Raptors game George Hill was called for illegal screen when he did this. Anything in NFHS that makes this illegal?

[bucky]

Originally Posted by champion

I have run into this a couple of times in rec leagues the last couple of months. ...A2 sets a screen on B1 with his back to A2. A2 is stationary and does not "hip" the defender. I could not find anything in the rule book that reads illegal. In last nights Cavs/Raptors game George Hill was called for illegal screen when he did this. Anything in NFHS that makes this illegal?

Sounds as if B1 could not see the screen. Ergo, A2 must allow B1 a step to avoid contact. If not, then there is an illegal screen. BTW, this type of illegal screen is rarely enforced...at any level.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by champion

I have run into this a couple of times in rec leagues the last couple of months. ...A2 sets a screen on B1 with his back to A2. A2 is stationary and does not "hip" the defender. I could not find anything in the rule book that reads illegal. In last nights Cavs/Raptors game George Hill was called for illegal screen when he did this. Anything in NFHS that makes this illegal?

Nothing differentiates the screening rules based on whether or not the SCREENER is facing his opponent.

[todd66]

4-40 ART. 2

To establish a legal screening position:

a. The screener may face any direction.

b. Time and distance are relevant.

c. The screener must be stationary, except when both the screener and opponent are moving in the same path and the same direction.

d. The screener must stay within his/her vertical plane with a stance approximately shoulder width apart.

[Camron Rust]

Just to reinforce the correct information already provided...

Originally Posted by todd66

4-40 ART. 2

To establish a legal screening position:

a. The screener may face any direction.

b. Time and distance are relevant.

c. The screener must be stationary, except when both the screener and opponent are moving in the same path and the same direction.

d. The screener must stay within his/her vertical plane with a stance approximately shoulder width apart.

[champion]

Originally Posted by todd66

4-40 ART. 2

To establish a legal screening position:

a. The screener may face any direction.

b. Time and distance are relevant.

c. The screener must be stationary, except when both the screener and opponent are moving in the same path and the same direction.

d. The screener must stay within his/her vertical plane with a stance approximately shoulder width apart.

Thanks for the rules reference! I thought I might be missing something when I saw it called last night because I also had a partner who argued with me about it.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by bucky

Sounds as if B1 could not see the screen. Ergo, A2 must allow B1 a step to avoid contact. If not, then there is an illegal screen.

Originally Posted by todd66

Time and distance are relevant.

ART. 3 When screening a stationary opponent from the front or side (within
the visual field), the screener may be anywhere short of contact.

ART. 4 When screening a stationary opponent from behind (outside the
visual field), the screener must allow the opponent one normal step backward
without contact.

ART. 5 When screening a moving opponent, the screener must allow the
opponent time and distance to avoid contact by stopping or changing direction.
The speed of the player to be screened will determine where the screener may
take his/her stationary position. The position will vary and may be one to two
normal steps or strides from the opponent.

ART. 6 When screening an opponent who is moving in the same path and
direction as the screener, the player behind is responsible if contact is made
because the player in front slows up or stops and the player behind overruns
his/her opponent.

[Jay R]

In the Cavs Raptors game, the foul occurred at the 10:05 mark of the third. Hill stuck his butt out. That's what it made illegal.