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Jesse James Tue Apr 03, 2018 11:14am

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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 1020334)
Yeah but other states do not rely so heavily on property taxes to fund schools, they use other funds. So if you are in a rural community that has not a lot of property taxpayers (you would not be if you lived in an apartment for example), then that might be the disparity in why a place like Naperville can afford a lot of things to fund their school and Maywood down the road has a different income bracket.

Peace

It’s not like the apartment owner would pay property tax or anything.

Camron Rust Tue Apr 03, 2018 11:28am

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Originally Posted by Jesse James (Post 1020336)
It’s not like the apartment owner would pay property tax or anything.

;)

I always chuckles when someone thinks apartment dwellers don't pay property tax. They may not write the check to the county directly but they do write it 12 times a year to their landlord. Anyone that thinks that renters don't contribute to property taxes is naive.

Rich Tue Apr 03, 2018 11:28am

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Originally Posted by Jesse James (Post 1020336)
It’s not like the apartment owner would pay property tax or anything.

My goodness, really. What does he think is in the rent people pay? Everyone who lives anywhere pays property taxes, either directly or indirectly.

JRutledge Tue Apr 03, 2018 11:34am

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Originally Posted by Jesse James (Post 1020336)
It’s not like the apartment owner would pay property tax or anything.

You realize what property taxes are right? You have to own the property to pay personally those taxes and also can be deducted in many cases off of other state or Federal taxes based on the usage of that property. Not the case when you rent, at least not in Illinois. It was not a deduction or part of the overall tax bill when I lived in an apartment.

Peace

Raymond Tue Apr 03, 2018 01:04pm

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Originally Posted by LRZ (Post 1020335)
"a shot clock would significantly ease administration of the closely-guarded rule"

But create administration problems of a shot clock, with sub-varsity and middle school tables? I'd rather have the onus of a closely-guarded count on my shoulders.

It's a lot simpler to properly administer closely guarded plays than it is to administer a shot clock. I hope that is not to supposed to a major talking point in regards to the need for a shot clock.

Raymond Tue Apr 03, 2018 01:09pm

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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 1020340)
You realize what property taxes are right? You have to own the property to pay personally those taxes and also can be deducted in many cases off of other state or Federal taxes based on the usage of that property. Not the case when you rent, at least not in Illinois. It was not a deduction or part of the overall tax bill when I lived in an apartment.

Peace

Additionally, there are a lot more people per square foot in an apartment complex as opposed single family dwellings. So depending how the property taxes are calculated and the value of the land and structure, there is not a one-for-one trade off between apartment buildings and single family dwellings.

LRZ Tue Apr 03, 2018 01:23pm

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Originally Posted by Raymond (Post 1020342)
It's a lot simpler to properly administer closely guarded plays than it is to administer a shot clock. I hope that is not to supposed to a major talking point in regards to the need for a shot clock.

I agree--that was my point. I was responding to ilyazhito's comment, which I quoted, which implied shot clocks would be easier.

crosscountry55 Tue Apr 03, 2018 01:28pm

I wanted to pile on the property tax discussion, but several posters beat me to the punch. Of course property taxes are passed off to renters in some form or another.

MPA Univ of Oklahoma ‘10

I think this thread has run its course, no?


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JRutledge Tue Apr 03, 2018 01:31pm

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Originally Posted by Raymond (Post 1020343)
Additionally, there are a lot more people per square foot in an apartment complex as opposed single family dwellings. So depending how the property taxes are calculated and the value of the land and structure, there is not a one-for-one trade off between apartment buildings and single family dwellings.

But the bottom line of all of this, you do not pay directly property taxes when you rent. You are not the owner of the property so you do not get that counted towards your overall tax bill. And it is state and jurisdiction run in Illinois, not from the Federal Government.

I cannot even believe this is a discussion. I referenced Naperville where I used to live and many people had 5 figure property tax bills and I can tell you I never had that when I lived there for my 2 years.

Peace

Jesse James Tue Apr 03, 2018 01:31pm

Jeff got it sorted out for us.

Raymond Tue Apr 03, 2018 04:17pm

I'm kinda slow so I'm going to make sure I'm understanding all you smug tax experts correctly.

Over here we have a cul-de-sac (call it YourHood) which houses ten $1M homes and 20 public school students who attend the Bluebood school district. One mile away on the other side of the railroad tracks there is a run-down apartment building (MyHood) which has 20 units and 40 public school students who attend the Blue Collar school district. Soooo, the same amount of property taxes are being collected from MyHood as are being collected from YourHood? Really?

#olderthanilook Tue Apr 03, 2018 04:21pm

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Originally Posted by Raymond (Post 1020355)
I'm kinda slow so I'm going to make sure I'm understanding all you smug tax experts correctly.

Over here we have a cul-de-sac (call it YourHood) which houses ten $1M homes and 20 public school students who attend the Bluebood school district. One mile away on the other side of the railroad tracks there is a run-down apartment building (MyHood) which has 20 units and 40 public school students who attend the Blue Collar school district. Soooo, the same amount of property taxes are being collected from MyHood as are being collected from YourHood? Really?

There are heckuva lot of people in this country that, indeed, say this is the way it works.

bucky Tue Apr 03, 2018 05:26pm

We went from closely guarded to taxes, lol.

Camron Rust Tue Apr 03, 2018 05:27pm

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Originally Posted by Raymond (Post 1020355)
I'm kinda slow so I'm going to make sure I'm understanding all you smug tax experts correctly.

Over here we have a cul-de-sac (call it YourHood) which houses ten $1M homes and 20 public school students who attend the Bluebood school district. One mile away on the other side of the railroad tracks there is a run-down apartment building (MyHood) which has 20 units and 40 public school students who attend the Blue Collar school district. Soooo, the same amount of property taxes are being collected from MyHood as are being collected from YourHood? Really?

Certainly not the same amount of money but everyone that is paying anything for just about anything is paying some amount that goes to property taxes. It is built into the price. Being hidden in the price is a clever way to keep people form realizing how much tax is really paid.

Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. Tue Apr 03, 2018 07:45pm

Five Seconds Closely Guarded!!
 
How did this thread go from the Closely Guarded Rule to property taxes?

Please lets get this thread back on the tracks.

MTD, Sr.


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