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Events in real time simply occur too quickly and are too complex for me to measure as if with a micrometer, so I have no default, no "go with" call--I referee the defense, immediately process what I see, and make a call, one way or the other. I'm just not that good to parse actions in real time and say "50/50" or something similar.
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beat me up over saying that but I think on plays that close those are things that can help you in formulating your whistle...if you have no idea what to call when you processing the play... From what I read it seems as if you say, " Well I think it is a charge, therefore it is a charge" Again no judgement, just trying to understand your thought process....
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I'm saying two things, I think.
(1) I don't have a "default" on 50/50 plays: eg, reacting in real time, I see a charge or I see a block. In my mind, I don't "think" I see a block--I see a block. (2) I focus on my perception of the play in front of me--eg, did the defender have LGP, did he move laterally or forward--not on externals like score. I'm aware of the score and time, who the dominant players are, who may be in foul trouble, but I don't use those factors in making calls--not consciously, anyway. Maybe what I'm saying is I always have an idea of what to call--although I may be wrong! In my work life, we used to say about judges, "Often wrong, never in doubt!" I'm also reminded of the famous Bill Klem quote, "It ain't nothin' until I call it." Last edited by LRZ; Thu Mar 29, 2018 at 06:13pm. |
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Lol how is my opinion saying I am better then anyone? I watched the game with several other refs. Guys who have done state HS championship games and college officials. They all agreed it was a horrible job by the officials. I gave my opinion that’s what everyone else does. To flex a post count is pathetic. |
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You sum up perfectly what is wrong with a lot of officials. |
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A Truly Great Basketball Official ...
Confucius says, "Anticipate the play, not the call".
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Couldn't he make the same comment about you? That sitting around judging the worthiness and tearing down the abilities of other officials is what's wrong with a lot of officials?
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What? Discussing specific plays and calls instead of making unchallengeable ambiguous criticisms? Be careful. Our March lurkers might start to think this an officiating discussion forum! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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Roger made a block call and sold it.
After slowing the tape down and reviewing several times, it appears the defender establishes LGP, but then moves ever so slightly to his left to engage the offensive player. Bang bang call. I can agree with the call. But in real time, you've got to make the decision, call it, and sell it. Roger did all three. |
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"it appears the defender establishes LGP, but then moves ever so slightly to his left to engage the offensive player."
I thought the defender, with LGP, moved laterally, so that the offensive player was responsible for the contact. But that was with the benefit of repeated viewings of the video. But as noted, the official on the floor had to react and sell the call, which he did. I have no problem with the call. Whether the ref missed it or not is not a relevant question to me. When I think a call has been missed, I always ask why, what might the official have seen, was he in the right spot--that is, what can I learn from it? |
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I will take slight issue with the statement that he "sold" this call. His footwork and cocked arm indicates he is getting ready to ship it, then he changes his mind and indicates the block.
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How exactly did he "sell" the call?
Crisp signals and a strong presence every time you blow your whistle eliminates the need to sell calls.
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