Intentional & double technical - NFHS

[Kelvin green]

Originally Posted by italian_referee

Hi all,

I had the following situation during a game and I would like to understand what would be the right procedure under NFHS rule.

Player A1 commits an intentional personal foul on player B1, who is in the act of shooting and scores a two-point field goal. Then B1 and A1 start arguing and both receive a personal technical foul.

My questions are the following:
- A1 needs to be ejected from the game or not? I know that two technicals and two intentional fouls lead to ejection, but what about one technical and one intentional personal foul?u
- The penalty for the intentional personal foul is 2 FTs + throw-in from the place nearest the game has stopped, whereas for both personal technical fouls the penalty is 2 FTs + throw-in from the division line. My question here is: what is the correct resumption-of-game procedure?

Thank you.

This may sound mean but where on earth did you get the idea that two intentional fouls lead to an ejection? Maybe a rule book would help here.

The penalty for intentional foul is always two shot and the ball nearest to the foul.

Remember that if you have simultaneous ( double) technical fouls you don’t shoot the fouls and go to point if interruption which would be shooting the 2 for the intentional ( no one lined up) and ball OOB.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Kelvin green

The penalty for intentional foul is always two shot and the ball nearest to the foul.

Except ...

And, I do note that the OP seems to be from Italy, so maybe the FIA rules are different.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by Kelvin green

This may sound mean but where on earth did you get the idea that two intentional fouls lead to an ejection? Maybe a rule book would help here.

The penalty for intentional foul is always two shot and the ball nearest to the foul.

Remember that if you have simultaneous ( double) technical fouls you don’t shoot the fouls and go to point if interruption which would be shooting the 2 for the intentional ( no one lined up) and ball OOB.

Kelvin:

Italian Referee is a FIBA Official who has recently relocated from Italy to Philadelphia, and as a former USA Basketball Referee, and from personal experience that FIBA Rules can be different in certain situations from NFHS, NCAA Men's/Women's, and NBA/WNBA Rules.

MTD, Sr.

[Kelvin green]

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

Kelvin:

Italian Referee is a FIBA Official who has recently relocated from Italy to Philadelphia, and as a former USA Basketball Referee, and from personal experience that FIBA Rules can be different in certain situations from NFHS, NCAA Men's/Women's, and NBA/WNBA Rules.

MTD, Sr.

Ok makes sense

[zakman2005000]

Originally Posted by Kelvin green

This may sound mean but where on earth did you get the idea that two intentional fouls lead to an ejection? Maybe a rule book would help here.

The penalty for intentional foul is always two shot and the ball nearest to the foul.

Remember that if you have simultaneous ( double) technical fouls you don’t shoot the fouls and go to point if interruption which would be shooting the 2 for the intentional ( no one lined up) and ball OOB.

This may sound mean but where on earth did you get the idea that the penalty for an intentional foul is always two shots and the ball nearest to the foul. Maybe you should look in a rule book before giving advice here.

You should take care of your own house before throwing stones at someone else's.

[Kelvin green]

Originally Posted by zakman2005000

This may sound mean but where on earth did you get the idea that the penalty for an intentional foul is always two shots and the ball nearest to the foul. Maybe you should look in a rule book before giving advice here.

You should take care of your own house before throwing stones at someone else's.

Really? under NFHS tell me where that is not true? Rule 10 penalty summary #4 has no exceptions.... what a double intentional foul? Or a multiple intentional foul?

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by Kelvin green

Really? under NFHS tell me where that is not true? Rule 10 penalty summary #4 has no exceptions.... what a double intentional foul? Or a multiple intentional foul?

Intentional personal foul when the shooter misses a 3pt try = three shots and a throw-in.

[Kelvin green]

Thanks... forgot about that one.i stand corrected.

[italian_referee]

Thank you all for your replies guys!

And you're right, in the rulebook there is no mention of ejection as a consequence of two intentional fouls, I was just mentally associating an intentional foul under NFHS rules with an unsportsmanlike foul in FIBA rules -- and two unsportsmanlike fouls do lead to an ejection -- but I need to be more careful apparently

Thank you all again!

[chapmaja]

Originally Posted by italian_referee

Thank you all for your replies guys!

And you're right, in the rulebook there is no mention of ejection as a consequence of two intentional fouls, I was just mentally associating an intentional foul under NFHS rules with an unsportsmanlike foul in FIBA rules -- and two unsportsmanlike fouls do lead to an ejection -- but I need to be more careful apparently

Thank you all again!

I know some wRECk leagues do have a two intentional ejection rule even if they use NFHS rules otherwise.

The league I work has this in part as a way to curb way to physical play that was happening.

[crosscountry55]

Originally Posted by Kelvin green

Really? under NFHS tell me where that is not true? Rule 10 penalty summary #4 has no exceptions.... what a double intentional foul? Or a multiple intentional foul?

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Intentional personal foul when the shooter misses a 3pt try = three shots and a throw-in.

Originally Posted by Kelvin green

Thanks... forgot about that one.i stand corrected.

I'm too late to comment with any semblance of usefulness. However, I should note that I got a huge chuckle reading about how Nevada put Kelvin in timeout.