Can assistant coach stand after HC ejected?

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by Raymond

He is now the acting HC with the same privileges as the HC. And since HC lost coaching box privileges, the acting HC has lost coaching box privileges.

Got a rules citation to support that?

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Got a rules citation to support that?

How about you come up with the rules citation that tells us at the new acting coach cannot request timeouts? Or how about you come up with a citation that says the new acting coach can stand up.

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[bob jenkins]

From 2--1-2002:

SITUATION 9: At the end of their pre-game warm-up, players Al, A4, A5, A9 each dunk the ball and subsequently leave the floor and go to their dressing room. RULING: A technical foul is assessed each player. The game starts with eight (8) free throws (2 for each of the technical fouls) and the ball is awarded to B at the division line opposite the table. Four team fouls toward the bonus are assessed to A. The head coach of A is assessed an indirect technical foul for each offense (4) and is subsequently ejected from the contest. Any coach assuming the responsibilities of the head coach for the game would not have the use of the coaching box. (10-3-5; 10-5 Pen)

[LRZ]

MTD heard footsteps in his attic. It was only Bob, rooting through the boxes for that reference.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

SITUATION 9: At the end of their pre-game warm-up, players Al, A4, A5, A9 each dunk the ball and subsequently leave the floor and go to their dressing room. RULING: A technical foul is assessed each player. The game starts with eight (8) free throws (2 for each of the technical fouls) and the ball is awarded to B at the division line opposite the table. Four team fouls toward the bonus are assessed to A. The head coach of A is assessed an indirect technical foul for each offense (4) and is subsequently ejected from the contest. Any coach assuming the responsibilities of the head coach for the game would not have the use of the coaching box. (10-3-5; 10-5 Pen)

Hey? You posted the interpretation before I could look it up.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Raymond

He is now the acting HC with the same privileges as the HC. And since HC lost coaching box privileges, the acting HC has lost coaching box privileges.

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Got a rules citation to support that?

If that were not the case, many parts of the rule book would be impossible to follow...

ART. 10 . . . Reporting a team warning for delay to the official scorer and then to the head coach.

ART. 11 . . . Notifying the head coach when a team is granted its final allowable time-out.

ART. 4 . . . Notify the head coach and request the timer to begin the replacement interval, and then notify the player on a disqualification.

Does that mean, if the head coach is ejected, there is no one to notify and, as such, a player can never be disqualified (since a player isn't disqualified until the coach is notified)?

If a disqualified player subsequently participates, who do you charge that T to? The rules specify the "head coach".

Also, the book uses "head coach" and just "coach" interchangeably throughout....

A player becomes bench personnel after his/her substitute becomes a player or after notification of the coach following his/her disqualification.

Note here is uses only "coach" where the same thing, in a different part, uses "head coach" (above).

For that matter, the only place "assistant" is mentioned anywhere in the book is in the technical foul summary.

The implications throughout the book are that there is always a "head" coach. Sometimes, they use just "the coach". It is just that one the box is lost for the game, the box is lost for whoever is the current head coach.

[JRutledge]

I cannot even believe that some veterans try to split hairs the way they do. It is just funny on so many levels.

Really, we are worried about if the new HC can request a timeout? WOW!!!!

Peace

[Nevadaref]

My take is the following:
Once the head coach is ejected, all of the privileges associated with such a position are lost to the team.
I will not be granting a time-out request from anyone on the bench. I will also not charge indirect technical fouls to anyone on the bench. The team simply doesn't have a head coach for the rest of the contest.

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

My take is the following:
Once the head coach is ejected, all of the privileges associated with such a position are lost to the team.
I will not be granting a time-out request from anyone on the bench. I will also not charge indirect technical fouls to anyone on the bench. The team simply doesn't have a head coach for the rest of the contest.

Text me at halftime when you've ejected a head coach cuz I wanna come watch that second half!

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

My take is the following:
Once the head coach is ejected, all of the privileges associated with such a position are lost to the team.
I will not be granting a time-out request from anyone on the bench. I will also not charge indirect technical fouls to anyone on the bench. The team simply doesn't have a head coach for the rest of the contest.

Whom will you notify when a player fouls out? Whom will you penalize when they fail to provide a sub?

[rotationslim]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

My take is the following:
Once the head coach is ejected, all of the privileges associated with such a position are lost to the team.
I will not be granting a time-out request from anyone on the bench. I will also not charge indirect technical fouls to anyone on the bench. The team simply doesn't have a head coach for the rest of the contest.

wait-- are you being sarcastic??? I hope so-- previous post indicates clearly there is an expectation that someone pick up on the responsibilities of HC.

"(From 2--1-2002:SITUATION 9: At the end of their pre-game warm-up, players Al, A4, A5, A9 each dunk the ball and subsequently leave the floor and go to their dressing room. RULING: A technical foul is assessed each player. The game starts with eight (8) free throws (2 for each of the technical fouls) and the ball is awarded to B at the division line opposite the table. Four team fouls toward the bonus are assessed to A. The head coach of A is assessed an indirect technical foul for each offense (4) and is subsequently ejected from the contest. Any coach assuming the responsibilities of the head coach for the game would not have the use of the coaching box. (10-3-5; 10-5 Pen)"

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by rotationslim

wait-- are you being sarcastic??? I hope so-- previous post indicates clearly there is an expectation that someone pick up on the responsibilities of HC.

"(From 2--1-2002:SITUATION 9: At the end of their pre-game warm-up, players Al, A4, A5, A9 each dunk the ball and subsequently leave the floor and go to their dressing room. RULING: A technical foul is assessed each player. The game starts with eight (8) free throws (2 for each of the technical fouls) and the ball is awarded to B at the division line opposite the table. Four team fouls toward the bonus are assessed to A. The head coach of A is assessed an indirect technical foul for each offense (4) and is subsequently ejected from the contest. Any coach assuming the responsibilities of the head coach for the game would not have the use of the coaching box. (10-3-5; 10-5 Pen)"

I'm sure our Georgetown law graduate will find some nonsensical reason why this isn't applicable.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

My take is the following:
Once the head coach is ejected, all of the privileges associated with such a position are lost to the team.
I will not be granting a time-out request from anyone on the bench. I will also not charge indirect technical fouls to anyone on the bench. The team simply doesn't have a head coach for the rest of the contest.

Forgive me while I laugh completely out loud!!!!

All the moralizing about the rules and this is what you come up with?

Peace

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

My take is the following:
Once the head coach is ejected, all of the privileges associated with such a position are lost to the team.
I will not be granting a time-out request from anyone on the bench. I will also not charge indirect technical fouls to anyone on the bench. The team simply doesn't have a head coach for the rest of the contest.

You must be kidding. Normally, you make good points, however, your position on this is utter nonsense.

Consider the point I made earlier....if there is no head coach, you can't legally disqualify any player after the head coach is ejected since the head coach must be notified before the disqualification becomes official. Are you going to let that player continue to play?

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

My take is the following:
Once the head coach is ejected, all of the privileges associated with such a position are lost to the team.
I will not be granting a time-out request from anyone on the bench. I will also not charge indirect technical fouls to anyone on the bench. The team simply doesn't have a head coach for the rest of the contest.

NevadaRef:

I want to smoke some of whatever you are smoking.

MTD, Sr.