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gogumakilla Thu Feb 15, 2018 12:39pm

Can assistant coach stand after HC ejected?
 
For some reason I cannot find this in the rule book. HC gets ejected, as the new coach can the assistant coach stand or does he also lose that privilege?

SNIPERBBB Thu Feb 15, 2018 12:52pm

An assistant coach doesn't get promoted to head coach because his boss got tossed. He is bench personnel and gets to sit.

gogumakilla Thu Feb 15, 2018 12:54pm

Thanks.

so cal lurker Thu Feb 15, 2018 01:09pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNIPERBBB (Post 1017156)
An assistant coach doesn't get promoted to head coach because his boss got tossed. He is bench personnel and gets to sit.

Hmm. Does that mean he cannot request TOs?

SC Official Thu Feb 15, 2018 01:17pm

A team loses the box for the rest of the game after the first direct or indirect T on the coach.

So, no.

And I hate the seatbelt rule.

LRZ Thu Feb 15, 2018 01:48pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNIPERBBB (Post 1017156)
An assistant coach doesn't get promoted to head coach because his boss got tossed. He is bench personnel and gets to sit.

Gets to sit, sounds right. Bench personnel, not so much. I don't think this is so clear.

Besides the TO question, the AC can't go to the table for a CE? Can't enter the court to prevent a situation from escalating? Can't permit team members to leave the bench area for an authorized reason? Is not responsible for the conduct of bench personnel?

Unless a rule or case says otherwise, isn't it more appropriate to treat the AC as the HC, with the loss of the coaching box?

Raymond Thu Feb 15, 2018 01:52pm

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Originally Posted by LRZ (Post 1017162)
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Unless a rule or case says otherwise, isn't it more appropriate to treat the AC as the HC, with the loss of the coaching box?

He is now the acting HC with the same privileges as the HC. And since HC lost coaching box privileges, the acting HC has lost coaching box privileges.

LRZ Thu Feb 15, 2018 02:00pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raymond (Post 1017163)
He is now the acting HC with the same privileges as the HC. And since HC lost coaching box privileges, the acting HC has lost coaching box privileges.

My question was really rhetorical.

BillyMac Thu Feb 15, 2018 05:34pm

End Of Discussion ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Raymond (Post 1017163)
He is now the acting HC with the same privileges as the HC. And since HC lost coaching box privileges, the acting HC has lost coaching box privileges.

Nice explanation Raymond. Simple, and to the point.

Close the thread. You don't have to go home, but you can't stay here.

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Nevadaref Thu Feb 15, 2018 06:50pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raymond (Post 1017163)
He is now the acting HC with the same privileges as the HC. And since HC lost coaching box privileges, the acting HC has lost coaching box privileges.

Got a rules citation to support that?

Raymond Thu Feb 15, 2018 07:01pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 1017184)
Got a rules citation to support that?

How about you come up with the rules citation that tells us at the new acting coach cannot request timeouts? Or how about you come up with a citation that says the new acting coach can stand up.

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bob jenkins Thu Feb 15, 2018 07:19pm

From 2--1-2002:

SITUATION 9: At the end of their pre-game warm-up, players Al, A4, A5, A9 each dunk the ball and subsequently leave the floor and go to their dressing room. RULING: A technical foul is assessed each player. The game starts with eight (8) free throws (2 for each of the technical fouls) and the ball is awarded to B at the division line opposite the table. Four team fouls toward the bonus are assessed to A. The head coach of A is assessed an indirect technical foul for each offense (4) and is subsequently ejected from the contest. Any coach assuming the responsibilities of the head coach for the game would not have the use of the coaching box. (10-3-5; 10-5 Pen)

LRZ Thu Feb 15, 2018 08:00pm

MTD heard footsteps in his attic. It was only Bob, rooting through the boxes for that reference.

Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. Thu Feb 15, 2018 08:04pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raymond (Post 1017163)
He is now the acting HC with the same privileges as the HC. And since HC lost coaching box privileges, the acting HC has lost coaching box privileges.


Raymond:

Very good analysis and explanation of the Rule.

MTD, Sr.

BillyMac Thu Feb 15, 2018 08:05pm

Just Kidding, It's Just BillyMac Being BillyMac ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 1017188)
SITUATION 9: At the end of their pre-game warm-up, players Al, A4, A5, A9 each dunk the ball and subsequently leave the floor and go to their dressing room. RULING: A technical foul is assessed each player. The game starts with eight (8) free throws (2 for each of the technical fouls) and the ball is awarded to B at the division line opposite the table. Four team fouls toward the bonus are assessed to A. The head coach of A is assessed an indirect technical foul for each offense (4) and is subsequently ejected from the contest. Any coach assuming the responsibilities of the head coach for the game would not have the use of the coaching box. (10-3-5; 10-5 Pen)

Hey? You posted the interpretation before I could look it up.


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