Throw-in violation - Official's mistake

[gogumakilla]

Hi everyone, new here. Been reading this forum a lot and finally decide to post. Great stuff, especially while I'm at work . Here's my scenario:

A1 gets an OOB spot throw-in along the end line. Timeout is called and after the timeout, A1 becomes the thrower. The official mistakenly tells the thrower he can run the baseline. The thrower does run the baseline. The partner official (unaware that his partner said he can run) blows his whistle and signals for the violation.

What do you do?

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by gogumakilla

Hi everyone, new here. Been reading this forum a lot and finally decide to post. Great stuff, especially while I'm at work . Here's my scenario:

A1 gets an OOB spot throw-in along the end line. Timeout is called and after the timeout, A1 becomes the thrower. The official mistakenly tells the thrower he can run the baseline. The thrower does run the baseline. The partner official (unaware that his partner said he can run) blows his whistle and signals for the violation.

What do you do?

Do over and tell the inbounder to stay put. I don't think there's a FED case on this, but I think there's an NCAAW case on it.

[frezer11]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Do over and tell the inbounder to stay put. I don't think there's a FED case on this, but I think there's an NCAAW case on it.

Agreed. If he's already in-bounded the ball (completed the throw in) it's too late to fix the mistake, just in case a coach gets all excited about how that should have been a violation.

And while I'm extending that original scenario a little, if he's already in-bounded the ball, and then the partner comes in with the whistle, its still too late, and now that would be an inadvertent whistle, and you'll need to inbound from the POI.

[gogumakilla]

That makes sense, thanks.

[LRZ]

Was the whistler on the end line? It is not clear to me. If not, there should be a conversation between officials about responsibilities and boundaries.

[HokiePaul]

Originally Posted by LRZ

Was the whistler on the end line? It is not clear to me. If not, there should be a conversation between officials about responsibilities and boundaries.

I think this would be a situation where it would be acceptable for one of the off-officials to have a whistle. If you know its not a throw-in following a made basket, the player takes off running, and the official administering the throw-in doesn't call the violation, one of the other officials needs to get that.

If it turns out that your partner gave incorrect information, then you can reset the throw in.

[frezer11]

Originally Posted by hokiepaul

i think this would be a situation where it would be acceptable for one of the off-officials to have a whistle. If you know its not a throw-in following a made basket, the player takes off running, and the official administering the throw-in doesn't call the violation, one of the other officials needs to get that.

If it turns out that your partner gave incorrect information, then you can reset the throw in.

+1.

[bucky]

Originally Posted by gogumakilla

Hi everyone, new here. Been reading this forum a lot and finally decide to post. Great stuff, especially while I'm at work . Here's my scenario:

A1 gets an OOB spot throw-in along the end line. Timeout is called and after the timeout, A1 becomes the thrower. The official mistakenly tells the thrower he can run the baseline. The thrower does run the baseline. The partner official (unaware that his partner said he can run) blows his whistle and signals for the violation.

What do you do?

Yes, as others have said, the damage is done. As a side note, there are ways to prevent this: Before the TO is reported to the table, the administering official should communicate visually/orally to his partners (at least closest one) whose ball it will be, where the throw-in will take place, and what type of throw-in it will be. Before the ball is given to the inbounder, the administering official should signal what type of throw-in it is. At that point, if a partner disagrees, they can sound their whistle and get confirmation.