"And one!!!"

[UNIgiantslayers]

Am I just getting cranky as I get older? I don't know why but this is driving me crazy this year that kids seem to be yelling "and one!!" more and more when they think they're fouled on a drive. I about whacked a kid last night who kept yelling it from the bench. I've noticed it in the past, but it's never really bothered me. Now, every time I hear it, I want to tell them that their parents don't love them. I think I'm in need of a break from high school kids for a while or something.

[Smitty]

Originally Posted by UNIgiantslayers

Now, every time I hear it, I want to tell them that their parents don't love them.

You are cranky, but this made me laugh.

[SC Official]

This only bothers me if he's staring down the opponent while he does it (taunting) or clearly directs it at me.

A lot of times players just say it in a celebratory way even when they know there was no foul (and ooooooooonnnnnnnneeeeee!!!).

[scrounge]

Originally Posted by SC Official

This only bothers me if he's staring down the opponent while he does it (taunting) or clearly directs it at me.

A lot of times players just say it in a celebratory way even when they know there was no foul (and ooooooooonnnnnnnneeeeee!!!).

heck, I hear it when there's not even any contact or before the shot!

[packersowner]

Originally Posted by SC Official

This only bothers me if he's staring down the opponent while he does it (taunting) or clearly directs it at me.

A lot of times players just say it in a celebratory way even when they know there was no foul (and ooooooooonnnnnnnneeeeee!!!).

Agree, a lot has to do with tone.

I've told told kids to quit with the "and 1" - they usually figure it out pretty quickly.

[nolanjj68]

I gave a bench warning for this last week and was about to T a player up after a made basket but his coach immediately chastised the kid and got him under control so I let it go. It was not a problem the rest of the game.

[sdoebler]

Our state (I think it was local and not national) issued a memo to coaches and players stating that talking to officials about the foul count was not appropriate conversation and would warrant a warning or technical if continued.

I could see something going out stating that shouting "And One" or "Ball don't lie" could follow a line of warning and/or technical but you never know what they will choose to focus on.

[Jewild]

Originally Posted by UNIgiantslayers

Am I just getting cranky as I get older? I don't know why but this is driving me crazy this year that kids seem to be yelling "and one!!" more and more when they think they're fouled on a drive. I about whacked a kid last night who kept yelling it from the bench. I've noticed it in the past, but it's never really bothered me. Now, every time I hear it, I want to tell them that their parents don't love them. I think I'm in need of a break from high school kids for a while or something.

Your not getting cranky, I get tired of hearing it too.
But I do love to say, (when they miss) it's only an and1, if he makes it!
It kinda breaks tension, or that you can also have some fun.
I've had players laugh and say, "yeah, your right"

[Hawkeyes]

Originally Posted by UNIgiantslayers

Am I just getting cranky as I get older? I don't know why but this is driving me crazy this year that kids seem to be yelling "and one!!" more and more when they think they're fouled on a drive. I about whacked a kid last night who kept yelling it from the bench. I've noticed it in the past, but it's never really bothered me. Now, every time I hear it, I want to tell them that their parents don't love them. I think I'm in need of a break from high school kids for a while or something.

“And One”
And
“Ball don’t Lie” is the one that is getting under my skin, because it could be interpreted that the official was “lying”.

I honestly believe that most kids are NOT directing this at officials. Saying this has become like a bad twitch.

I still play pickup hoops, my kids are playing hoops and like many of you, enjoy watching younger people play pickup (no officials).
I have noticed that these two lines are more directed at their opponent in an effort to: discourage contact before it happens, tell
their opponent they just got fouled, compliment a half decent drive to the basket or draw attention to themselves.

All of the above are wrong, but part of pick up hoops language. Notice that most girls do not say this, because pick up isn’t played by girls as often.

Not sure this is a battle NFHS will fight?





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[SC Official]

Originally Posted by Hawkeyes

Not sure this is a battle NFHS will fight?

Hope not, because I don't like absolutes.

[champion]

Originally Posted by Hawkeyes

“Ball don’t Lie” is the one that is getting under my skin, because it could be interpreted that the official was “lying”.

My response to this is always "Ball don't talk either". Usually gets a smile or a nod.

[Hawkeyes]

Originally Posted by champion

My response to this is always "Ball don't talk either". Usually gets a smile or a nod.

Heard that one from my partner last week - loved it and will definitely use it!
Need a good one for "And One".
Whatcha got?

[RedAndWhiteRef]

Originally Posted by Hawkeyes

Heard that one from my partner last week - loved it and will definitely use it!
Need a good one for "And One".
Whatcha got?

"And none."

[Hawkeyes]

Originally Posted by RedAndWhiteRef

"And none."

Had a “ball don’t lie” tonight from the bench.
Coach was nearby and I said: ball don’t talk. Coach told the kid to be quiet and apologized to me.
I like “and none”. Also like slowly saying: And One (pause) more of those may get you a technical foul (walking away).



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[Amesman]

Originally Posted by Hawkeyes

Need a good one for "And One".

"First you need two."

Back to the OP ...

Worse than hearing players do it is coaches. Usually it's a case of younger, underlevel guys (and, yes, it's virtually always guys) just getting caught up in the game. Almost as if it's a synonym for "Great move in traffic!"

Much lower tolerance for this, however. A not-so-private word usually does the trick with any and-1'er.