Wichita Ref gets shoved by cop

[Blindolbat]

Originally Posted by #olderthanilook

Charged? meh....he didn't two hand push or punch her. He emotionally brushed her aside with fingertips. Disrespectful? Heck yes. Embarrassing? Heck yes. Worthy or admonishment/punishment? Heck yes.
Worthy of being charged with a crime? Probably not. Worthy of a public and one on one apology to the official and her family. HECK YES.

Worthy of losing his job? HECK YES

[#olderthanilook]

Originally Posted by Blindolbat

Worthy of losing his job? HECK YES

Maybe.

I think there has to be a pattern of him boiling over, some type of trend that shows he has a problem with managing his anger/emotions, for him to be fired from his job.

This incident, in and of itsself, probably isn't sufficient cause.

Time will tell, though.

[jeremy341a]

I don't condone any of his actions. However I do believe the work shove is not the correct term to use to describe what took place.

[#olderthanilook]

Originally Posted by jeremy341a

I don't condone any of his actions. However I do believe the work shove is not the correct term to use to describe what took place.

Agreed. His actions cannot be condoned. His punishment should "fit the crime". The severity of the punishment should take the entire picture of his career to date into account, as well.

[FormerUmp]

I do feel as though someone in his position needs to be held to a higher standard than the average citizen.

[Hawkeyes]

Originally Posted by FormerUmp

I do feel as though someone in his position needs to be held to a higher standard than the average citizen.

If an I.T. guy does this, we don't really care if he gets fired? Instead let's fire the public servant doing a job that many of us will not or could not do...

[FormerUmp]

Originally Posted by Hawkeyes

If an I.T. guy does this, we don't really care if he gets fired? Instead let's fire the public servant doing a job that many of us will not or could not do...

I'm not necessarily suggesting he be fired, but he should be held to a higher standard, yes. Keep in mind this was obviously investigated and they're going off of more than what's on the video.

How would someone who did the same to him in his official role be treated?

[Hawkeyes]

Originally Posted by Blindolbat

Worthy of losing his job? HECK YES

And if his kids arm is broken, because these untrained high school kids were put in this horrible situation?
You want to now ruin his career and hurt his family?
Did this girl who clearly acts like she can handle herself lose some sense of self-worth?
As a dad of four daughters and I'd want to take this guy out and kick his ___. But it'd be over after that as far as I'm concerned.

[Blindolbat]

Originally Posted by Hawkeyes

And if his kids arm is broken, because these untrained high school kids were put in this horrible situation?
You want to now ruin his career and hurt his family?
Did this girl who clearly acts like she can handle herself lose some sense of self-worth?
As a dad of four daughters and I'd want to take this guy out and kick his ___. But it'd be over after that as far as I'm concerned.

As someone else said in this thread, higher standards apply to some people depending on the job they hold. This is one of them. Is it fair? Maybe not.

If you as an official go to a game and cry and complain about the officiating, then the microscope is turned back on you. People notice that. That behavior is not allowed and depending upon where you work, you may be suspended or put on probation depending upon the severity.

And to make it clear, no, I do not want to ruin his career, but he is the one that put himself in that situation.

[packersowner]

This is another reminder for why every state should include "sports officials" as a special victim or have included legislation designed to protect officials.

State Legislation - National Association of Sports Officials

Incidents like these become treated differently with these types of rules. They make it much easier for administrators to have a backbone. If you're state does not have this in place, I would encourage you to reach out individually or through your state associations to adopt.

[Kelvin green]

If the cop were in uniform and was called to the scene... and a citizen did what he did to the referee, the citizen would have been thrown to the ground and handcuffed... let’s see what the judicial system does....

[sdoebler]

Update to this story:

Man who shoved teen referee no longer with Wichita police

No longer with the department, doesn't show a direct connection but he was charged.

[ilyazhito]

Good to see that this person is no longer with the police.It would be legally confusing if a police officer attacked someone in the performance of his duties, especially if the victim was someone whose job is ensuring safety and controlling access to the playing surface.
Hopefully future police officers (and parents in general) do not repeat his mistakes.

[Kelvin green]

Originally Posted by sdoebler

Update to this story:

Man who shoved teen referee no longer with Wichita police

No longer with the department, doesn't show a direct connection but he was charged.

No just charged but convicted on the assault and disorderly conduct.