Wichita Ref gets shoved by cop

[scrounge]

I gotta admit, I'm kinda shocked that anything was filed in this case

[justacoach]

Originally Posted by scrounge

I gotta admit, I'm kinda shocked that anything was filed in this case

Credit the cell phone video which memorialized this inconsequential kerfuffle.

[so cal lurker]

Originally Posted by justacoach

Credit the cell phone video which memorialized this inconsequential kerfuffle.

A adult making contact with a youth official is not an inconsequential kerfuffle.

[HokiePaul]

Originally Posted by so cal lurker

A adult making contact with a youth official is not an inconsequential kerfuffle.

Not to mention that the cell phone was probably only pulled out to take the video because the parent was already making a scene.

If the guy was quietly walking onto the court to be helpful to the injured player there's no issue. I'd bet that this guy was already yelling at the official and making a scene before the video even started.

[ODog]

Originally Posted by HokiePaul

Not to mention that the cell phone was probably only pulled out to take the video because the parent was already making a scene ...

Bingo.

[RefBob]

The official obviously did not handle it well. But she is a 17 year old minor with little or no training. (Could be my daughter.) He is an adult male police captain a head taller than her. He needs to take the much higher, smarter and calmer road. He should never, never ever have come close to touching the official much less pushing her. And like someone said, if anyone ever pushed an officer in uniform while they were on scene that person would rightfully so be on the ground in handcuffs and charged with assaulting a police officer. This is not an insignificant matter. He should be charged, plead to a deal and get some training.

[#olderthanilook]

Originally Posted by RefBob

The official obviously did not handle it well. But she is a 17 year old minor with little or no training. (Could be my daughter.) He is an adult male police captain a head taller than her. He needs to take the much higher, smarter and calmer road. He should never, never ever have come close to touching the official much less pushing her. And like someone said, if anyone ever pushed an officer in uniform while they were on scene that person would rightfully so be on the ground in handcuffs and charged with assaulting a police officer. This is not an insignificant matter. He should be charged, plead to a deal and get some training.

Charged? meh....he didn't two hand push or punch her. He emotionally brushed her aside with fingertips. Disrespectful? Heck yes. Embarrassing? Heck yes. Worthy or admonishment/punishment? Heck yes.
Worthy of being charged with a crime? Probably not. Worthy of a public and one on one apology to the official and her family. HECK YES.

[Hawkeyes]

Originally Posted by ODog

Bingo.

Or this rec-mess is already so out of hand that a kid ended up with a broken arm?

[crosscountry55]

Originally Posted by scrounge

I gotta admit, I'm kinda shocked that anything was filed in this case

Yeah, there wasn't that much there, but on the other hand, he's a police captain with no excuse for what he did, and he assaulted a game official, so by charging him I think you send a message that absolutely needs to be sent. I think a misdemeanor charge is highly appropriate here. If the DA drops the charges in exchange for being suspended from coaching and a reprimand from his law enforcement agency, I think that would be a wholly appropriate outcome.

The official is not without blame. There was inexperience involved, for sure. I hope she acknowledges that she could have handled it differently, and more importantly I hope she learns from this and continues to officiate.

[ODog]

I agree with everyone who says there's a not a lot there, and that it was obviously very poorly handled by the official. And if she hadn't decided to blow the whistle directly in his face (she's a child, after all), the assault never happens.

But perhaps this guy was being "that guy" from the stands all game long (we all know the type in these hot-mess rec leagues) and when he was suddenly all the way onto the court, just feet from the officials he had perhaps been riding like a lunatic all night, she finally lost it and went lunatic too.

Doesn't justify it. Just a theory ...

And his kid did not look hurt enough to warrant a parent trip to the court. He could've just met him at the bench.

[SCalScoreKeeper]

The kid definitely did not need to walk towards the parent in this situation. She needed to identify who her site administrator was and let them deal with removing the officer. I too hope the kid sticks with our craft and learns from this.

[Reffing Rev.]

I wonder how he would handle being shoved while in uniform?

[#olderthanilook]

Originally Posted by reffing rev.

i wonder how he would handle being shoved while in uniform?

this!

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Reffing Rev.

I wonder how he would handle being shoved while in uniform?

The assault charge (plus other charges) would have been immediate, not weeks later after an investigation.

[UNIgiantslayers]

"stop resisting!!!"