GHSA Forces Replay of Game's Final Second

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GHSA agrees with Discovery boys basketball protest, forces replay of ending with Collins Hill | Sports | gwinnettprepsports.com

The Georgia High School Association sided with Discovery’s boys basketball team on a misinterpreted ruling in this past Saturday’s loss to Collins Hill, reversing the result and forcing the two teams to replay the game’s final second.

Collins Hill won the game 46-45 when Justin Lee made two free throws off a technical foul called on Discovery’s Kalu Ezikpe, who punched an inbounds pass away to run the final second off the clock. Titan officials were quick to point out the play shouldn’t have resulted in a technical foul, just a change of possession.

However, the game referees still awarded a technical foul and ensuing free throws to Collins Hill in the key Region 6-AAAAAAA game. Discovery officials pursued the case with the GHSA, which agreed that the officials ruled in error. The organization released the following statement on the verdict from executive director Robin Hines:

“After reviewing the incident that occurred at the end of the Collins Hill vs. Discovery boys basketball game, the GHSA has made the following ruling: A misapplication of NFHS Rule 9-4 (pg. 58 in the rule book) clearly occurred when the officiating crew assessed an ‘unsporting technical foul,’ rather than a simple violation, for striking the ball with a fist. Since this was NOT a ‘judgment call’ but a clear misapplication of a rule, play shall be resumed at the point of interruption when the violation occurred. It will be the responsibility of the two schools to determine when/where the resumption of play will take place and communicate that information with the local officials association and myself. Additionally, there shall be no added expense for officials assigned to finish the game in question.”

Collins Hill hosts Discovery on Tuesday, at which point they will play the final second of the previous matchup, likely before the regularly scheduled game. The Eagles will have possession under their basket at the restart, trailing 45-44 and needing to go the length of the court.

The outcome affects not just the two involved teams, but also the other teams currently in a logjam at the top of the region standings.

“For coaches in general, it lets you know your voice can be heard,” Discovery boys head coach Cory Cason said. “Like in all sports now, ultimately you just want the right decision to be made, whether it’s immediately after or after when you can look at it closer.”

The GHSA didn’t initially side with Discovery after it received emails on the subject. But Cason followed up with a phone call Monday to state his case.

“I’ll give Cory credit, he wasn’t willing to let it die at the first no,” Discovery athletic and activities director Chris Hall said.

“I was just determined to get (the GHSA officials) on the phone and at least get them to hear me out verbally,” Cason said. “It wasn’t opening Pandora’s box. It the last possession and it was clearly what decided the game. If they turn around (Tuesday) and they make a shot, they just win.”

If Collins Hill doesn’t make a shot, the Eagles’ record falls to 17-3 overall and 5-3 in the region — which knocks them out of a second-place tie with Duluth and Mountain View. Discovery then improves to 10-11 overall and 3-5 in the region.

[Rich]

The GHSA has proven itself to be a shit show. This just reinforces that.


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[FormerUmp]

Originally Posted by Rich

The GHSA has proven itself to be a shit show. This just reinforces that.


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I don't have knowledge of the rule in question, but I'm guessing there's not a baseball-like protest option in basketball?

And I'm also familiar with the precedent set by GHSA in baseball.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by FormerUmp

I don't have knowledge of the rule in question, but I'm guessing there's not a baseball-like protest option in basketball?

And I'm also familiar with the precedent set by GHSA in baseball.

This is a state thing. My state does not recognize any protests in any sport. This would not happen in the State of Illinois at this time. Heck the IHSA won a lawsuit over a situation in a football game a year ago for the very same logic during a misapplication of a rule, no protests.

Peace

[FormerUmp]

From the 2017-2018 GHSA Constitution and By-Laws
2.90-Regulations of Competitions
2.92-Contest Rules
(f)-No protests are allowed in any GHSA sport or
activity unless specified by NFHS rules.

https://www.ghsa.net/constitution

[scrounge]

those goobers are just making it up as they go along, and this isn't even close to the first time

[sj]

If Collins Hills scores and wins it would seem that Discovery could file a protest with the GHSA saying that based on the GHSA constitution the original outcome should not have been subject to a protest. That would be an interesting response to see.

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[youngump]

Originally Posted by sj

If Collins Hills scores and wins it would seem that Discovery could file a protest with the GHSA saying that based on the GHSA constitution the original outcome should not have been subject to a protest. That would be an interesting response to see.

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If Collin Hills scores, they'll have won both the original game and the 1 second replay. That seems fairly unlikely given 1 second remaining on the clock. (One wonders if the tenths were available and known as well). I think you mean if they Collin Hills doesn't score, they could protest that the first protest wasn't allowed. And I agree it would be utterly comical if a different appeals board upheld that appeal.
Assuming Collin Hills is in the bonus, one wonders if the slightest contact might not result in them getting free throws anyway

I'm torn on this subject and would love to hear reasoned thought on it as I think there are good arguments on both sides of this debate. Sure it opens up an utterly unresolvable Pandora's box of questions as to what to do when this happens if you don't keep the game final, so my instinct is to say that the rule that games are final is best. But is there any line at which you'd acknowledge the officiating was so bad that we shouldn't take their final decision. Consider this case for example. With .3 on the clock and Team A down by 5, the ball is inbounded touched, deflected around but the clock doesn't start. A1 grabs the loose ball thinking the game is over and runs into a half court heave for the basket. B1 running toward his team bench celebrating trips A1 on his way back to the ground. The officials deem the A1's shot counts since the clock didn't start but that time has now run out. They determine that B1's foul is a DBCT because the clock should have run out and award 2 free throws for the technical plus one for committing a technical on a shot. A1 sinks all three free throws to win. The result of the game determines who gets into the State Tournament. It comes out after the game that one of the referees had a personal issue with one of the coaches.
What about the same but they are down 7 and they give the coach a technical for saying "what?" loudly when he sees how this goes down.

Or how about this one, with 1 minute left and team A up by 23 points the referee announces "next shot wins." Team B scores 22 seconds later. The referee tells the scorer to give them 24 points and to sound the final horn and the referees leave.

But if you accept any of my utterly Third World Absurdities are enough to trigger doing something then this is merely a line drawing conversation about where to make the cutoff and not the hard and fast rule suggested by the book. And if you don't accept the last one, I'm tempted to question whether you have enough sense of fair play.
I know this seems black and white to many of you but I think it's more nuanced than you're acknowledging. I think the answer may turn on keeping the result unless it's absurd, but Discovery would certainly argue that giving them a technical foul for punching the ball out of bounds was an absurd way to end a game.

[BigT]

This happened here. Game ends in a tie and the player who tried to drive to win go and chest pumps the Lead and F bombs him. Technical foul. They misapply the rule and the T is shoot in regulation and its game over. If the coach told the state we should have had over time would you guys be upset that they had an OT at a later date.

In my opinion a misapplication like this at the end of the game is something that should be redone when the final mispplication affects only the end of the game. Not the 1st quarter.

[FormerUmp]

Originally Posted by BigT

This happened here. Game ends in a tie and the player who tried to drive to win go and chest pumps the Lead and F bombs him. Technical foul. They misapply the rule and the T is shoot in regulation and its game over. If the coach told the state we should have had over time would you guys be upset that they had an OT at a later date.

In my opinion a misapplication like this at the end of the game is something that should be redone when the final mispplication affects only the end of the game. Not the 1st quarter.

The problem is that the rules don't support allowing a protest.

Additionally, the GHSA last spring overturned an umpire's judgment call despite the obvious rule preventing that. They denied the protest of a judgment call in a football game this fall. They just seem to do whatever feels good at the time with no thought to the rules or consistency.

[crosscountry55]

Originally Posted by FormerUmp

The problem is that the rules don't support allowing a protest.

Additionally, the GHSA last spring overturned an umpire's judgment call despite the obvious rule preventing that. They denied the protest of a judgment call in a football game this fall. They just seem to do whatever feels good at the time with no thought to the rules or consistency.

You know, if I'm Collins Hill and I'm feeling frisky, I could easily file suit to stay the GSHA's decision based on the disregard for their own bylaws. And I'd probably eventually win the case.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by FormerUmp

The problem is that the rules don't support allowing a protest.

Additionally, the GHSA last spring overturned an umpire's judgment call despite the obvious rule preventing that. They denied the protest of a judgment call in a football game this fall. They just seem to do whatever feels good at the time with no thought to the rules or consistency.

Isn't this the same organization that played its State Championship games with the baskets positioned incorrectly a couple of years ago?